煽り - Aori {Suiseizen Tatsumaki Hijutsu}

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煽り - Aori Clan
煽り - Aori {Suiseizen Tatsumaki Hijutsu} 113854-11654-seiichiro-aoki

Location: Kumogakure

Signature Traits:

Affinity to Fuuton ~ All members of the Aori clan possess Fuuton and are especially sensitive to wind. They can read the direction and flow of local air currents and doing so is part of their secret clan training.

People of Virtues ~ All men and women of the Aori clan are raised with a strong emphasis on the virtues of Patience, Truth, and Flexibility. While not all clan members idealize all three, those that do are praised and rewarded even if their talent with the clan Hijutsu is lacking.

Absolute Secrecy ~ The method behind the Aori clan's Hijutsu has been a long coveted secret by many both within and beyond the walls of Kumogakure. Thus, all training is done in complete darkness. The teachings are passed on through the wind itself and not a single word is spoken in case a spy were listening in. Only the Aori or masters of Fuuton would be capable of learning the clan techniques under those conditions. The only tangible documentation of the clan techniques is a secret scroll upon which the jutsu names are written in order of how they were taught. Yet even this scroll is guarded heavily and can only be viewed by a clan member upon completing each step of their training. Of course, clan members are taught to favor death over leaking information about the clan.

Avian Friends ~ All Aori seem to attract birds and most generally reciprocate a fondness for their feathered friends in kind. Many take on birds as pets or summons and as a result, finding a summoning pact with birds is extremely easy for Aori clan members. Earning a summons respect to pact with them? That, is a bit trickier but the Aori clan have a good reputation among bird summons which helps with first impressions. Summoned birds will initially treat Aori clan members with respect. This does not mean they will bow down and be your summons, nor does it mean another players bird summons would hesitate to fight you. But it does mean that they generally wont blow you off or give you a hard time.

Hijutsu:

水勢善竜巻 - Suiseizen Tatsumaki {Streaming Virtuous Hurricane}
This is a fuuton based Hijutsu which comprises of many techniques but only one set of hand signs and a waking meditation. It is a patient style that seems gentle and harmless at first, but grows into a storm over time. The secret behind the Hijutsu lies in the first clan technique. During this jutsu the Aori place a gamble by closing their eyes and entering a meditative state. The first hand sign used is a unique crossing of the hands at the wrists with ones fingers flared out to resemble wings. The clan member then performs the hand signs and molds fuuton chakra for all the clan jutsu they wish to perform. The secret of the initial hand sign binds the others into a linear sequence. The gathered fuuton chakra is leaked from the hands and body into the atmosphere where it matches its movements with that of local wind currents. This chakra is molded into a technique as it leaks from the body through the clan members hands and body which allows the Aori to seemingly perform jutsu without hand signs. The techniques then use natural wind currents as a guide for where to move. By giving up the direction and flow of their techniques to the wind, the Aori exert less effort which is normally put behind making a jutsu move around. All the molded chakra is gradually released into the atmosphere where it can be molded as wind currents pass the Aori clansman. But using all the chakra at once is impossible, so instead it is molded overtime into techniques as dictated by the order of hand signs performed during the initial jutsu. This forces Aori to release their techniques in order of weakest to strongest. This gradual increase in complexity of techniques is balanced against the gradual decrease in chakra the Aori is keeping track of as jutsu are performed and the total amount of the users chakra remaining in the atmosphere decreases. Trying to use a jutsu out of order(Ex: Using a B rank clan jutsu following a D rank.) would disrupt that balance and make the Aori lose control of all that chakra. Thankfully since all the futon chakra was molded and released on the first turn, it is possible to use jutsu of other elements while Suiseizen Tatsumaki is active, but the user must simultaneously control their existing wind chakra and mold new chakra. This is only possible for A rank shinobi or B ranks with the Elementalist SC. In addition, the chakra cost of non-wind jutsu while Suiseizen Tatsumaki is active are increased by 20%(Rounded down.)

Weaknesses
-Initial Jutsu takes time to perform.
-Predictable pattern due to linear escalation of techniques.
-All chakra invested at E rank is lost if the Aori is unable to cast a wind jutsu of the appropriate rank for any reason.
-Stronger techniques require more overall chakra investments and large build up times.
-ALL clan Hijutsu must originate from the users body and move in the direction of the local natural wind currents. Aori must include details about the wind currents in their posts akin to how Nara must describe local shadows.
-If the air is still, as it can be deep underground, Aori Hijutsu are ineffective wastes of chakra.

Strengths
-Able to produce clan fuuton jutsu "without hand signs."
-Higher Ranked clan members can potentially cast two jutsu at once.
-Higher Ranked clan members can potentially cast collaboration jutsu by themselves.
-Because their chakra is spread thinly over a large volume of space the range of their techniques can become frightening with higher chakra investments.

History: (See next Post)

Clan Style:
The only clan specific training not treated as a secret is the following style which is openly taught to any Kumogakure shinobi looking to learn:

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Clan Jutsu:
Clan members are encouraged to develop their own relationship with the wind and form their own variations on how to use their Hijutsu for D rank and higher. However the original course of Six Acts developed by the clan founder must be learned to reach the next rank of mastery in Suiseizen Tatsumaki. Before you can create a custom clan jutsu, you must have purchased the standard clan jutsu of that rank first.

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History:

~Origins~

The Aori began as a religious monk sect which lived at the peak of mountains near Kumogakure since long before the first Raikage laid his claim. The monks had shut themselves away from the world by ascending these mountains. Their goal was to attain enlightenment and they forewent food or water in exchange for simple meditation as sustenance. As the days passed the bodies of the monks shriveled and withered from atrophy and autophagy; yet they were no closer to achieving the divine revelations they had sought.

After 29 days of no food or water several of the monks had died and only those whom had entered a deep enough meditation survived. By minimizing their bodily functions their life was extended, but it was only a matter of time before they fell like their brothers. It was then that the roof of their temple collapsed dropping rubble and dust into the middle of the chamber they were meditating in. The crash stirred the living Monks and as their consciousness returned to normal they observed a giant bird lying among the rocks. It was a magnificent hawk at least 10 meters from beak to tail feather with a wingspan that couldn't be calculated due to the mess of rocks and dust.

The Bird shocked the monks even further by speaking. It asked for help but this brought the monks to tears. A sign from the heavens like this was exactly what they were hoping for as they knew full well that they would die soon. They could not even speak to tell the bird that their bodies were too weakened from their foolish stubbornness. The request for aid was met with a sorrowful tear made of precious liquid that should not have been wasted on sentiment. Only a single one of the monks could even produce a single tear. Seeing this, this bird realized that these men needed help far more than it did.

In an amazing display of will power and vigor, the Hawk strained against the heavy stone pinning its wings to the floor. With great effort it tore itself free tearing several wings and feathers whilst leaving a bloody stain. After freeing itself from the debris it was clear the hawk was wearing a haori and it was carrying a couple different satchels on a belt along with a large gourd. The bird was one of the head S rank summons alive at the time and it crashed into the monks temple during a bad storm where lightning almost stuck him. The resulting shock and blast was enough to send him tumbling into their roof. But he saw the bad luck as a change to do good. One by one, the large bird carefully gave some of the water in his gourd to each monk. Then, it would give each one a seed from its satchels to eat.

For the next 6 days, the hawk watched over the Monks whom were still alive and gradually nursed them back to a point where they would be able to take care of themselves again. The Hawk spoke to the monks while he was there and explained that his name was Aorihane. When he was not treating the Monks or his own wounds, he was training, performing jutsu with the mere flap of his wings. The monks whom watched the bird train each of the six days became the first members of the Aori clan.

Their meditation became observation. Not wanting to miss a single moment of Aorihane's training they relaxed their eyes and began viewing the world like a recording device. They "saw" every moment and burned it into their subconscious like a brand. Their sensation of touch began recording as well and the subtle sensations of the local air currents became more and more noticable as their sensitivity increased with each exposure.

Aorihane left on the 7th day. The monks begged him to stay and share his knowledge believing that the heavens were behind the meeting. They begged to become his followers in order to spread the glory and virtue of his name and deeds. The Hawk humbly declined as it had already wasted enough time here in the lands of the humans. Instead, Aorihane left two scrolls behind for the monks. The first detailed a training regiment that called for a windy room with no light and chakra molding meditations done inside of the room along with several wing stances. It was originally written for birds after all! The second scroll was a summoning contract for the monks to keep, however it was for Aorihane's use. It was to be kept on their leader at all times so he could summon them to repay his kindness one day.

~Ascension~

After their avian benefactor had left, the monks first set out to restoring their bodies and gaining new disciples. There were only a dozen of them left after all. They took on the name of their patron and renamed themselves "The Aori School" which was to be promoted a place of spiritual peace. The training techniques they had been given were then locked away for 20 years during which they cultivated a new generation of monks whom followed the Aori ideals of non-aggression and peaceful virtuous living. Once the flock was pure, they broke the seal on the scroll with Aorihane's training regiment and began offering it to the entire temple.

Caves were built all throughout the mountain that the temple was on. With the stormy nature of Kaminari no Kuni's weather, the inner caves would provide the pitch dark room full of wind required. The meditated together in groups molding chakra. The wing stances were useless to the humans if taken literally, however through careful study similarities to certain fuuton handsigns could be noticed. Time not spent in the caves was spent trying to decipher the stances as a collective group.

By this point the original Aori were all still alive, but they were nearing the end of their natural life spans. They began to fear that they would not live to see humanity master Aorihane's teachings. After 2 years of attempting to unravel the secrets of handisigns and fuuton chakra there was finally a breakthrough. The youngest of the monks still needed to perform handsigns, however by letting his chakra release through the wind currents around him he was able to release the jutsu on a delay of sorts. While this was not the same thing Aorihane had displayed for the monks, it certainly appeared similar after the initial hand signs.

In a desperate act, the elder Aori made this youthful boy the leader of the temple. He was to share what he had learned and help others replicate it. Under his leadership the style slowly began to spread throughout the monks. Some simply could not succeed no matter how hard they tried as they were not born with fuuton. These shamed monks would be forbidden to leave lest they share the groups secrets, but they were not treated poorly and allowed to lived their lives in peaceful meditation on the mountain which was all they wanted in the first place.

~Joining Kumogakure~

Over the years all the original elders passed away, but the leader they left behind was only 26 and could still be considered to be in the prime of his life. While he guided the clan to master their techniques, Kumogakure formed nearby. Over the generations the Raikage's influence in the mountains reached out to the Aori Temple. They were given a choice similar to most groups with unique abilities that the expanding hidden cloud encountered. Join us or perish.

The Aori were not a group to be coerced, however they were recruited during the reign of the god focused 1st Raikage, Daichu. His religious dedication was what ultimately made the Aori to decide to join Kumogakure. The fact that the envoys who conveyed this deal didn't do so down the edge of a blade also helped the shinobi villages cause. The actual ordeal itself too several meetings back an forth as the Aori discussed terms with the Raikage's administration. If their group was to join the village they would be asked to become a "Clan" disregarding their vow of chastity as monks. They were asked to take wives and pass on their teachings to future generations. In exchange for this and swearing loyalty to the village, the Aori would be given a new mountain along with resources, shinobi training, and a brand new temple with improved food and water supplies.

Many of the monks refused to take wives, but the younger ones, including the clan leader, were quick to break their vows when the laid eyes on the exotic looking beautiful women of Kumogakure. So the Aori School became the Aori Clan and became a part of the village over the next several generations.

~Repaid Debts~

With their position as a shinobi clan secured the Aori slowly began to forget the story of the great hawk that had saved their ancestors. Only the elders still believed it to be true and the rest of the clan wrote it off as just a silly legend. It was around this time that the current clan head mysteriously disappeared for 6 months. The clan was in chaos initially, however in time they recovered and simply assumed he'd gone missing until he returned. But when he did come back to his village, it was with quite the entourage.

It was during the reign of Persephone, the 3rd Raikage, that a large shadow was cast over the village. However this shadow was not from thunder clouds as one would commonly expect. Several giant birds of various unfathomable wingspans appeared flying over Kumogakure. The largest of them descended upon the Aori clan compound's mountain peak and perched there only for the missing clan head to jump down from the creature's back.

The summoning contract left by Aorihane was still traditionally held by the clan head and it had allowed the man to be reverse summoned by the very bird that had been the start of it all. The bird summons were in the midst of a terrible war with a clan of snake summons and the elderly Aorihane was too weak to fight for his people. On his death bed, he summoned the Aori clan head and asked one simple thing of him. To fight in his stead and represent his name on the battle field.

Using his elemental versatility he was able to amplify the wind techniques of the bird summons he fought alongside. Through the power of collaboration jutsu and ambush warefare, the Aori actually managed to influence the outcome of several skirmishes. Aorihane died before the conflict was fully resolved, however he spoke to the clan head after several of his victories and died at peace knowing that his flock would be safe.

The valor and virtue the clan head showed both on and off the battlefield impressed the other bird summons and this earned their respect. At his request, many returned to the village with him to make contracts with other Aori shinobi. This began the clan's close relationship with bird summons as well as their priority to value mastering multiple elements. Not much else has changed or developed about the clan since then. While they all are offered shinobi training, many simply live out peaceful meditative lives atop their clan mountain temple. Others serve the village as kind and generally well liked ninja. They usually have a supportive role in the village and few ever made themselves out to be leaders so not much glory was achieved over the years. But that was fine for this humble bird-loving clan.

~Present Day~

The Aori lack any real goal other than protecting the village and their clan secrets. The search for enlightenment has become less prominent within the clan, however the ideals of virtuous living remain as strong as ever. They are enjoying the peaceful days of their village not being at war and worry about its return. However if need be, the Aori will fight just as hard as anyone else in the village to protect their home and kin.

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First off, congratulations. This is a pretty cool clan, with decent thought and information behind the abilities, and I quite like it.

Now, unto the good part.

Unlock: Sword of Damocles: While I fully understand the reasoning behind this seal and it being E ranked, I think this is a rather complex and difficult Fuuinjutsu and simply cannot be so low. For comparison purposes, the Hyūga's seal is A ranked and, even then, it only has one activation method - by a Main House member. Yours, on the other hand, has three different methods, one of which is an automatic activation, which I would say requires an added degree of complexity.
Furthermore, still regarding the same technique, is there any way you can explain how the seal can decide/realize the one bearing it is about to leak out vital information regarding the clan? Is there a set of forbidden word or sentences? This kind of thing needs to be defined, as you could easily classify anything as 'vital information' as use it as pretext to get someone instantly killed. Furthermore, the opposite can also happen, with a bearer of this seal finding a way of getting around this and revealing vital information to outsiders nonetheless. I would personally suggest removing this method, despite the fact that I can see why it would be appealing. Of course, you're free to try to pursue a way of getting it into reasonable grounds.
Elementalist SC: As far as I'm concerned, I don't think it's possible for you to establish a a reduction in the training requirements for SCs, as they should be equal to everyone, regardless of clan.
Eagle Eyes: This seems way too similar to the Perception SC, as far as I'm concerned.
"enter a waking meditation where it becomes possible to sync ones chakra with that of the winds": Can you shed some more light in regarding this meditation? What exactly does it entail, what does it look like, and so on. Furthermore, what do you mean with 'syncing your chakra with that of the winds'? Seeing as the winds don't have chakra, this leaves me a bit confused. Did you just mean syncing your chakra with the winds themselves?
My first initial gripe with this clan's core abilities - the lack of handseals. Handseals are a fundamental part on Ninjutsu and they are the very thing that allows a ninja to their their potential chakra into effective fuel for techniques. Furthermore, there is already an SC that allows one to not use handseals, except only for C and lower ranked techniques (I believe). This inherent ability of the clan would, ultimately, completely outclass this, even with all the restrictions, and even at Genin rank.
Regarding the so called chain of jutsu, is it safe to assume you NEED to use one technique belonging to the chain every turn, correct?
Controlling and molding two different types and natures of chakra, for different purposes, sounds extremely hard to me, in that context, especially considering the maintaining of the control over the wind chakra is something they must keep in mind at all times. There would have to be some sort of penalty on the non-wind technique, I'd say. Either an increased cost or a decreased damage/effect.
"ALL clan Hijutsu must originate from the users body and move in the direction of the local natural wind currents.": what does that mean, exactly? It sounds a bit vague to me.
Furthermore, I seem to remember reading that wind techniques end up costing less than normal. Yet, after that, no other mention or specification was made. Is this decrease something that is verified in the cost of the techniques themselves? If that is the case, you'd be better off establishing a cost reduction in the description of the Hijutsu itself, though bearing in mind that it most likely wouldn't be able to stack with any SC that already reduces costs.

I'll also take the same course of action as you do, if you don't mind, and wait for you to potentially reply/fix/change these things, as the evaluation of the techniques themselves might change depending on how the general bloodline shifts.

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Quote :: [*]Unlock: Sword of Damocles: While I fully understand the reasoning behind this seal and it being E ranked, I think this is a rather complex and difficult Fuuinjutsu and simply cannot be so low. For comparison purposes, the Hyūga's seal is A ranked and, even then, it only has one activation method - by a Main House member. Yours, on the other hand, has three different methods, one of which is an automatic activation, which I would say requires an added degree of complexity.

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The I would posit that the seal placed on each Aori before training is S rank then. The problem here is, how complex can a jutsu be. But no one joining the clan ever needs to learn that advanced seal because an NPC gave it to them when they were but children. Now most high level seals require complex unsealing methods, but that is by design of the person who created the jutsu. They didn't want others tampering with the seal and thus mad sure it had a complex unsealing technique. But in this case, the creator of the original seal wanted it to be easy for those with the seal to use it. I'm guessing your next bullet was the part that needed more complexity so I'll address that after the next quote.

Quote :: [*]Furthermore, still regarding the same technique, is there any way you can explain how the seal can decide/realize the one bearing it is about to leak out vital information regarding the clan? Is there a set of forbidden word or sentences? This kind of thing needs to be defined, as you could easily classify anything as 'vital information' as use it as pretext to get someone instantly killed. Furthermore, the opposite can also happen, with a bearer of this seal finding a way of getting around this and revealing vital information to outsiders nonetheless. I would personally suggest removing this method, despite the fact that I can see why it would be appealing. Of course, you're free to try to pursue a way of getting it into reasonable grounds.

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The answer to your questions lies behind the reason why the seal is administered on top of the skull and just before training the clan Hijutsu. My idea was that the seal be placed on top of the synapses that fire when a clan member is talking and recalling the learned information about the clans training methods. Those specific memories. Because the Aori strictly forbid speech during or about training, anyone who activated those conditions would be breaking the clan laws. Another important factor here is that this seal is willingly accepted by the barer as something they must do before they are allowed to train with the clan secrets. Because they are willing, they too have a small hand in the creation of the seal by dedicating the chakra needed to release it. They can never spend that chakra on their own without breaking the seal. The creator of the seal would not have wanted the barer to require great strain or effort to activate it as they would only be doing so in dire situations. It's suicide after all. Since the key to unlock the seal is the tiny bit of chakra the barer dedicated, its easy for them to access and activate.

I've sent you a pm explaining a few more things. This is half an idea I had several hours past what should have been bed time and half me piecing together the bits that weren't connected yet by my stubborn sleepy self. You seem to be generally leaning towards the direction of, "It's possible, but you need to explain it clearer." which makes me think you know of a way this can work. If what I suggested above still doesn't satisfy you, please help me with some suggestions on how to tighten this down.

Quote :: [*]Elementalist SC: As far as I'm concerned, I don't think it's possible for you to establish a a reduction in the training requirements for SCs, as they should be equal to everyone, regardless of clan.

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Bonus gone. Keeping it as a common trait however is it suits the clans philosophies and ideologies.

Quote :: [*]Eagle Eyes: This seems way too similar to the Perception SC, as far as I'm concerned.

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I'm changing this to a clan style as the effect I want can be obtained with real world methods.

Spoiler:

If Perception allows the increase of ones ability to take in and process information then this is a watered down natural tool of the human body to take in more information(field of view increases and peripheral vision becomes more sensitive) but it doesn't increase ones ability to process that information(sight is blurry, less detailed, etc.) Hopefully that is acceptable as something similar to, but also different from the Perception SC. Let me know.

Quote :: [*]"enter a waking meditation where it becomes possible to sync ones chakra with that of the winds": Can you shed some more light in regarding this meditation? What exactly does it entail, what does it look like, and so on. Furthermore, what do you mean with 'syncing your chakra with that of the winds'? Seeing as the winds don't have chakra, this leaves me a bit confused. Did you just mean syncing your chakra with the winds themselves?

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But don't the winds have chakra? Nature Chakra used in Senjutsu pulls latent chakra from the ground, trees, animals, and the air. That implies there is latent nature chakra in the wind. But this isn't Senjutsu. I'm not pulling the chakra from the ground or the trees or anything else around me. I'm not even taking it from the wind. Instead, my clan Hijutsu meditates to identify where the nature chakra of the wind is and how its moving(which is why the initial E rank jutsu requires the stand still and don't move.) These Hijutsu send their own wind chakra to ride the wave of the nature chakra in natural wind. What I'm doing is taking advantage of a small fraction that is otherwise part of Senjutsu. But I'm using it in a different way that never requires I use or manipulate nature chakra. I'm just moving my fuuton in synchronization so it gets picked up in the flow. This is why all the clan jutsu have to follow the natural local wind currents. It's akin to being upstream and then placing paper boats on the surface of water. The boat will follow the current downstream. Likewise these jutsu are placed onto the flowing currents of wind locally present and simply ride them.

Oh and I forgot to explain the waking meditation. Meditation isn't limited to sitting on velvet cushions and ohming with your legs crossed and your index fingers curled up to meet your thumbs. Walking can be a meditation, and in my case, typing can be a meditation. Many athletes experience waking meditative states as well. That being said, this is a meditation on keeping track of the natural chakra flows subtly lacing the local wind currents and all the chakra that has been released into the air nearby so it can be used once the appropriate turn has come. It's just the character focuses really hard on this one thing. That meditation can be interrupted and I should have mentioned as much before. Taking a serious injury, being caught in a genjutsu, or having your chakra flow disrupted could all cancel the meditation. At that point you lose track of all this chakra you've been keeping track of and lose your sovereignty over it allowing it all to just be dispersed where ever nature sees fit to distribute it. You could think of it like keeping an eye on a bubble filled with ink in a glass of water. Once the bubble pops, it is impossible to gather all the ink particles back together again and even if I could I can't reliably reform that bubble to perfectly capture only ink and no water. In this case, the water is nature chakra, and the last think an Aori wants to do is absorb that because they don't have the training required to master senjutsu. So any chakra they lose track of is a lost cause.

Quote :: [*]My first initial gripe with this clan's core abilities - the lack of handseals. Handseals are a fundamental part on Ninjutsu and they are the very thing that allows a ninja to their their potential chakra into effective fuel for techniques. Furthermore, there is already an SC that allows one to not use handseals, except only for C and lower ranked techniques (I believe). This inherent ability of the clan would, ultimately, completely outclass this, even with all the restrictions, and even at Genin rank.

What if all the handsigns for their planned investment are made at the start of the E rank jutsu? For example, if I wanted to perform a C rank jutsu which needed 3 handseals I'd need to perform 6 handseals at the beginning. 1 for the E rank, 2 for the following D rank, and then 3 for the C rank. So you invest chakra and hand signs prematurely. How does that sound?

Quote :: [*]Regarding the so called chain of jutsu, is it safe to assume you NEED to use one technique belonging to the chain every turn, correct?

You NEED to use what you've invested towards otherwise you'll have wasted chakra(and time doing handsigns now). Because its all invested on the E-Rank jutsu, and then performed in gradual escalation of force one rank at a time each turn. This means the Aori play a bigger gamble for using stronger clan jutsu. If they prepare for an S rank and then get trappped in a Genjutsu the next turn, they wont be able to perform the jutsu for that turn and all the chakra they invested into the surrounding air will dissipate and become useless as the Aori clan member is no longer meditating. The reason why they MUST escalate gradually in this manner is because the entire Hijutsu originates and propagates from a single origin jutsu. Each rank is a variation on the origin jutsu effect and require the previous stage be executed as a foundation.

Quote :: [*]Controlling and molding two different types and natures of chakra, for different purposes, sounds extremely hard to me, in that context, especially considering the maintaining of the control over the wind chakra is something they must keep in mind at all times. There would have to be some sort of penalty on the non-wind technique, I'd say. Either an increased cost or a decreased damage/effect.

How does a 20% increase in chakra cost (Rounded down) sound? That is the opposite of the clan prodigy SC.

Quote :: [*]"ALL clan Hijutsu must originate from the users body and move in the direction of the local natural wind currents.": what does that mean, exactly? It sounds a bit vague to me.

It means exactly what it sounds like it means. If an Aori is fighting someone and the winds are blowing east, then the Aori will be unable to use clan techniques on their target unless it is downwind and to the east of them. If the opponent were to the north and I were facing them and use a Suiseizen Hijutsu, the attack would form and immediately start moving right of my position instead of forward towards my foe. This requires the wind be an active factor Aori rpers mention and keep track of during a thread. Similar to how Nara must be more detailed about shadows in their posts. The logic behind this is as I mentioned before, these jutsu are as paper boats on a stream.

Quote :: [*]Furthermore, I seem to remember reading that wind techniques end up costing less than normal. Yet, after that, no other mention or specification was made. Is this decrease something that is verified in the cost of the techniques themselves? If that is the case, you'd be better off establishing a cost reduction in the description of the Hijutsu itself, though bearing in mind that it most likely wouldn't be able to stack with any SC that already reduces costs.

More paper boat on the stream nonsense was behind my thinking here. Because they are riding the flow of natural winds, they don't actually need to propel their techniques and can focus all their time on shaping and refining them. Thus to create the same level fuuton jutsu as anyone else, the Aori spend slightly less chakra that would have otherwise been put into making a jutsu mobile. The "reduction" here isn't supposed to be significant enough to actually lower chakra costs. It's mostly flavor text to express that the complexity behind their secret techniques is effortlessness. They let nature do part of the work for them.

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I'll wait for your reply before I go editing things on the main post. I would be surprised if that successfully quelled all your doubts.

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While you're right that the seal can very well be S ranked, seeing as no one joining the clan will have the need to apply it, the problem is that there may be a need to increase the chakra activation cost of the seal, when one uses it to sacrifice themselves with it. There are other kinds of seals that are S ranked and have costly activations not because they were build to be that way, but simply because they are S ranked. In all techniques - but especially in specialties as demanding and complicated as Fuuinjutsu -, the higher the rank, the more complex a technique is. The same happens with Fuuinjutsu and, when something is more complex, it also means it is harder to use. This increase of cost, however, would completely make the seal useless for lower ranks, and I'm acutely aware of that. With that in mind, I'll simply wait to see the potential final form of this seal, as the way it ends up as may justify having this lower cost of activation.
While in a basic sense, your explanation is not half bad at all, it does still have some holes to me, particularly that it would be hard for the applier of this seal to fine tune it to only activate when the bearer does something as specific as speaking about the clan techniques. At the time of the application of the seal, the soon-to-be-bearer has no knowledge of those things. What this means is that if, for example, the sealer was attempting to have the seal activate when the bearer speaks about his mom, he could have the bearer speak about his mom during the process, as a way of creating some form of memory, inside the seal, to activate the next time such specific synapses and brain activity patterns manifest. But in your case, there is no way of doing that, which makes the process all that harder. Without this established pattern to be recognized by the seal, who knows if the seal wouldn't activate when the user speaks and recalls other unrelated long term memories, seeing as all long term memories are stored in the same area of the brain and incite the same sort of brain activity patterns. That, as it stands, is my only issue with this otherwise decent explanation. As for the bit you PM'd me, I will PM you back after I finish this reply (which means that, by now, you have most likely read it already )
I'm still unsure about your style, because even with a real-life basis, it still infringes upon the Perception SC's jurisdiction, to me. Could you possibly make the Perception SC a requirement for the usage of this style? While taking away a SC slot for anyone wanting to use it, it would still justify the infringement and, ultimately, make it fine with me (granted that you add that it's still nowhere near the insight granted by Sharingan and it does not grant prediction abilities). It would also be some sort of a secondary application of the SC, forgoing the detail part for a more reactive application to opponent's attacks.
Senjutsu doesn't use Nature Chakra, as that doesn't exist. What it does use is Natural Energy, which is a third kind of energy, together with the Spiritual and Physical duo that is already existant and produced inside the human body. It is by mixing these two types that one creates chakra. And if you mix in the third into the process, then you create Senjutsu Chakra, which turns you into a Sage. And considering that the perceiving and gathering of Natural Energy (which is what would be present in the wind) is restricted to Sages who have gone through the rigorous training processes to become one, that sort of puts your claims down to rest. Could you not make it work, instead, by simply using the same basis and releasing these waves of chakra into the air, syncing them not with the Natural Energy, but rather with the natural air currents and motions to achieve the same effect, without mentioning the Natural Energy at all? Because, as it stands, the issue is still that, unless they get Sage training, they should not be able to even perceive the Natural Energy (the only canon exception to Sages being Juugo's clan, and even then it wasn't a controlled process).
As for the meditation, I'm aware. I was just asking you to provide a small description regarding this meditation process and how it happens (what kind of meditation, the requirements for it, etc), inside the clan post, just so it's identifiable as such. And do please include the interruptions, too, as that is very good information.
Regarding the handseals, that sounds good to me. The handseals should accompany the chakra expenditure, in the first place, so that works out rather well. Just keep in mind that once someone gets to the point where they want to use all of the tiers, up to S rank, chances are the initial handseal string comprising all of them would possibly be rather long.
Chakra cost increase for simultaneous non-wind techniques : Sounds good to me.
Wind Chakra cost decrease : That makes sense to me, but what I was asking was for you to give me an actual value on how much it actually decreased. Seeing as you say it doesn't effectively decrease anything, though, you should probably add between brackets, in the relevant section, that it doesn't actually cause any decrease in cost.

Everything else that I didn't address or didn't mention is simply because the justification or reasoning that you provided is good enough for me. With that in mind, and if you proceed, please make sure to include the relevant information/changes in the original post regarding these points, as well.

Cheers.

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Alright, I've made a lot of edits here.

-Added the S rank seal jutsu along with a deeper explanation behind it.
-Increased chakra cost for seal unlock to 20cp, but kept the 5cp contingency via having the seal just steal the last of the barer's chakra to kill them and activate.
-Rewrote the Hijutsu to better suit what we've discussed. No nature chakra/mentioning that it can be interrupted/cost of performing other non-wind jutsu increased/needing to perform all handsigns at the beginning.
-Gentle Gazing reworded to include the burdens and downsides which I feel already make it significantly unique from perception. It's far from a powerful advantage and is hardly even a shadow of the Perception SC at this point. It's also not included among the clan secrets and is just a style the usually learn.

If I missed anything, just let me know.

Age : 34 Posts : 344

Everything looks in order to me, at first glance. The only thing I'm waiting for, now, is the thing we discussed through PM, regarding the seal. When I have news on that one, I'll do a more thorough check (after PMing you) and move along with the approval of this clan.

EDIT: Now that the PM business is out of the way...

Suiseizen Tatsumaki Fourth Act: Divine Sparrow Waltz :
"The form two by two from air currents as they pass by the users hands and then follow the trajectory set by nature. "; Could you clarify on that sentence? I think you might have made a typo there, because it's hard to understand.

Furthermore, still regarding the same technique, do you think you could reduce the amount of swallows in this technique? While the damage each deals is acceptable to me, 14 is quite a high number. If one gets hit by all of them, it could get rather dangerous, even for a B ranked technique. Perhaps cap it at 10? Just a suggestion, I'll leave it up to you in the end.
Suiseizen Tatsumaki Fifth Act: Condor Impact: Honestly? I think this technique is a bit too weak to be an A rank. Just letting you know that you have a small amount of room to make it slightly stronger. Furthermore, could you mention what the range of the wind vortex is? The condor is 12 feet in terms of wingspan, but how far away does its wind vortex, pulling things in, reach?
Suiseizen Tatsumaki Secret Sixth Act: Exquisite Valley of Birds : Can you give any indications regarding the radius this technique covers? What I mean is, an you give an estimate of the width of the "stream" of birds, as well as their trajectory (though you've said the user can change it with it's hands)? Does it have the shape of a cone, is it just a straightforward trajectory, etc?

Age : 33 Posts : 718

Quote :: Suiseizen Tatsumaki Fourth Act: Divine Sparrow Waltz :
"The form two by two from air currents as they pass by the users hands and then follow the trajectory set by nature. "; Could you clarify on that sentence? I think you might have made a typo there, because it's hard to understand.

Edited to the following:

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Quote :: Suiseizen Tatsumaki Fifth Act: Condor Impact: Honestly? I think this technique is a bit too weak to be an A rank. Just letting you know that you have a small amount of room to make it slightly stronger. Furthermore, could you mention what the range of the wind vortex is? The condor is 12 feet in terms of wingspan, but how far away does its wind vortex, pulling things in, reach?

Made this jutsu a bit stronger by adding an implosion effect at the end. The "implosion" does no damage as its just the wind collapsing in on itself. But the result is that anyone and anything caught are forced into a final collision. While this doesn't necessarily increase the total potential damage much, it ensures those caught in it don't just say they get lucky and dodge everything. If you have suggestions to make it better still, I'm all ears.

Vacuum range set to 3m from the front and 6m from the side/rear of the Condor. If this is too much then please let me know an acceptable range.

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Quote :: Suiseizen Tatsumaki Secret Sixth Act: Exquisite Valley of Birds : Can you give any indications regarding the radius this technique covers? What I mean is, an you give an estimate of the width of the "stream" of birds, as well as their trajectory (though you've said the user can change it with it's hands)? Does it have the shape of a cone, is it just a straightforward trajectory, etc?

Stream width set to a 5m diameter. Trajectory confusion cleared up a bit. The different trajectories caused by changing the hand positions as the jutsu activates is minor. By changing the origin point, the path it will take along the wind will be slightly different despite being on the same wind current. The jutsu still goes in one direction, the direction of the wind, as with almost all Aori Hijutsu. The only way this jutsu could possibly change directions is if there were a cross wind stronger than the original air current they were set upon. But once again, that condition applies to almost all Aori jutsu.

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Age : 34 Posts : 344

Sounds good to me.

Approved 1/2.

Age : 33 Posts : 718

Completion Bump~

History is done!

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Mugen wrote:: Elemental Experiments ~ It is not required that an Aori obtain the Elementalist SC, however it is a common theme among the clan's star members to master a third element. Despite the powerful connection the clan has with the wind release, they value flexibility which means a desire for versatility. Aori are encouraged to push boundaries on what people think is capable through Jutsu.

Nope, sorry. Remove this part.

Age : 33 Posts : 718

Adam wrote:

Mugen wrote:: Elemental Experiments ~ It is not required that an Aori obtain the Elementalist SC, however it is a common theme among the clan's star members to master a third element. Despite the powerful connection the clan has with the wind release, they value flexibility which means a desire for versatility. Aori are encouraged to push boundaries on what people think is capable through Jutsu.

Nope, sorry. Remove this part.

Gone, but when you just say, "Nope, sorry. Remove this" I don't know why and thus I have no way of not repeating whatever the problem was.

I know you're the head admin and all, but I respectfully request you take the extra few seconds required to give a brief explanation behind your denial of things. It is a courtesy that goes a long way towards not upsetting or disrespecting your members.

Right now I don't know if that had to be removed because you misunderstood and thought it was granting an SC. Or maybe it's because a Hijutsu counts as a KKG and thus that SC can't be obtained by clan members. Or perhaps the reason was something different all together! But since I don't know, I am confused and can only guess. I can't even negotiate changing it so it would be acceptable.

In this case, I've already removed it but I'd appreciate a pm explaining why I had to do so.

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Archived given that Mugen has left the site.