Giving Away Weapons

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Just a thought that occurred to me, and I wanted to bring up. The system is fairly clear on the whole process of stealing weapons and all. What about giving away weapons?

Now, I'd presume it's either "highly limited" or "outright disallowed" to just give someone a weapon, but all the same, I just wonder.

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In my opinion, as long as it happens IC, someone should be able to give away whatever they like- so long as the item or weapon still counts towards limits and doesn't somehow magically take with it the abilities needed to wield it well. I'd suggest maybe even not allowing the giver to replace the weapon of requiring it to be done through a topic so that people don't just start dealing weapons to their non-weaponry friends xD This is just an opinion though, and I'd be interested to hear what some other mods and Admin have to say (: I don't see why giving should be disallowed if it has realistic downfalls though.

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Annnnnyone else gonna offer their input?

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You should be allowed to hand someone your weapon in a fight. They should be able to use it unless the weapon requires some particular ability. So technically, you could give someone a fancy B-rank Adamantine durable sword that they could use, since its not exactly something that the average ninja couldn't pick up and use. You shouldn't be allowed to keep it of course after the fight, unless you actually try to steal it, in which the weapon owner should actually wanna keep it, else you get weird loopholes where people pretend to want their weapon then let it be stolen. But for the purpose of the fight? Sure. Even if you give, say, a Ninjutsu/Genjutsu user the sword, they won't be as good as a weapon specialist with it, and if it has special techniques, won't be able to use them due to not having weapon speciality.

For the most part, though, I would avoid keeping the weapon unless its a legitimate theft.

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Shiro wrote:: You should be allowed to hand someone your weapon in a fight. They should be able to use it unless the weapon requires some particular ability. So technically, you could give someone a fancy B-rank Adamantine durable sword that they could use, since its not exactly something that the average ninja couldn't pick up and use. You shouldn't be allowed to keep it of course after the fight, unless you actually try to steal it, in which the weapon owner should actually wanna keep it, else you get weird loopholes where people pretend to want their weapon then let it be stolen. But for the purpose of the fight? Sure. Even if you give, say, a Ninjutsu/Genjutsu user the sword, they won't be as good as a weapon specialist with it, and if it has special techniques, won't be able to use them due to not having weapon speciality.

For the most part, though, I would avoid keeping the weapon unless its a legitimate theft.

Common sense yo.

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I think he actually means giving the weapon as a gift. And I think it should be allowed, though I don't think the weapon should be able to be used to its max abilities if you don't have the requirements(specialty) for it.

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Strange Ace wrote:: I think he actually means giving the weapon as a gift. And I think it should be allowed, though I don't think the weapon should be able to be used to its max abilities if you don't have the requirements(specialty) for it.

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Strange Ace wrote:: I think he actually means giving the weapon as a gift. And I think it should be allowed, though I don't think the weapon should be able to be used to its max abilities if you don't have the requirements(specialty) for it.

That's just it. If you're a Genin given a B-rank weapon that's just a sword that's far harder to break, you're not gonna have a hard time using it to it's "Max" ability. So gifts shouldn't normally be allowed I'd say, since it means you can be a Chunin who can just pass superior weapons to all the Genin in the village

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Shiro wrote:

Strange Ace wrote:: I think he actually means giving the weapon as a gift. And I think it should be allowed, though I don't think the weapon should be able to be used to its max abilities if you don't have the requirements(specialty) for it.

That's just it. If you're a Genin given a B-rank weapon that's just a sword that's far harder to break, you're not gonna have a hard time using it to it's "Max" ability. So gifts shouldn't normally be allowed I'd say, since it means you can be a Chunin who can just pass superior weapons to all the Genin in the village

B-rank weapons are not necessarily stronger for one thing; they're either stronger, or chakra conductive. And it's even explicitly stated in the rules, under the stealing weapons guide, that just because a genin has a B-rank weapon, does not automatically make them proficient with it. Further, without a weapon spec, you're most certainly not going to use it very skillfully anyway, beyond the most basic of the basics; in a non weaponry user's hand, a B-rank weapon is just a bigger, fancier kunai.

As for just passing along the weapons to any old genin, well, for one, it's going to cost the gift giver funds to procure those weapons, the same as if you dug into your own pocket to buy a gift for someone. For another, it'd make no sense to just give a weapon to some random genin you'd never met, or barely knew. Like Kyo said, it'd be reasonable if you had to do a topic for the act of giving away the weapon, and further, kept it within IC reasons.

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Mors Atra wrote:: Like Kyo said, it'd be reasonable if you had to do a topic for the act of giving away the weapon, and further, kept it within IC reasons.

LOOOOLLL!! T, not you too! Giving Away Weapons 287405

Butchea, purchasing and RP requirements bro \o/ Could also be like suicides in that the evaluator has to approve that the act was indeed in character and all that.

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TwinnyKitty wrote:

Mors Atra wrote:: Like Kyo said, it'd be reasonable if you had to do a topic for the act of giving away the weapon, and further, kept it within IC reasons.

LOOOOLLL!! T, not you too! Giving Away Weapons 287405

Butchea, purchasing and RP requirements bro \o/ Could also be like suicides in that the evaluator has to approve that the act was indeed in character and all that.

*commits shame seppuku*

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Can we get a bloody Admin in here already!? Giving Away Weapons 287405

It' been a bloody week, and Jelly is the only staff to offer any sort of input into this.

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Strange Ace wrote:: I think he actually means giving the weapon as a gift. And I think it should be allowed, though I don't think the weapon should be able to be used to its max abilities if you don't have the requirements(specialty) for it.

I have no grievances with such a thing happening, so long as it appears to be a fluid and natural transition of your weapon/item. If I were to see you conversing with somebody in character about the use of a certain item that they may not be able to create without Weaponry and you then making it for the soul purpose of handing it off to them then I'd be more inclined not to allow it.

Make sense?

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What your saying is, then, I can give an A-rank durable sword to a Genin. Not something that require any more "requirement" than being a weapon user.

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Well, much like anything here it would have to be suitable for the users rank. If you gave somebody something above their rank they wouldn't be able to use it.

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Adam wrote:

Strange Ace wrote:: I think he actually means giving the weapon as a gift. And I think it should be allowed, though I don't think the weapon should be able to be used to its max abilities if you don't have the requirements(specialty) for it.

I have no grievances with such a thing happening, so long as it appears to be a fluid and natural transition of your weapon/item. If I were to see you conversing with somebody in character about the use of a certain item that they may not be able to create without Weaponry and you then making it for the soul purpose of handing it off to them then I'd be more inclined not to allow it.

Make sense?

Wouldn't it make more sense that, if you were giving a weapon as a gift to someone, it'd be sort of personalized to be something useful to the person it's being gifted to? Like, say, giving a medical user a special blade that they can slide a vial of poison into the hilt, and it then coats poison along the edge of the blade. But I agree, in the sense that you can't just go up to a weapons using buddy and say "Hey, can you get me THIS weapon with THESE exact specifications?" I'm thinking more along the lines of "Hm, my buddy is training for taijutsu and medical, I think he might find a trench knife that can have a vial of poison or sedative slipped into the hilt, and coats the blade, very useful."

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But as I said, it has to be in the limitations of ones specialty. You couldn't give me a sweet bow and arrow and expect me how to use it to its fullest extent without Weaponry.

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So giving weapons = yes, so long as it is done believably and in character. However the reciever can't use the gift with much skill, or any special abilities it may have, without weaponry as a spec, or at all if the weapon is above their own rank. Seems reasonable to me (: And really, how often is someone going to be willing to spend some of their own hard earned funds to get a gadget for someone else? I doubt we'll be overrun by Taijutsu specialists running around flailing the extra durable sword their mate gave them. So, solved?

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TwinnyKitty wrote:: So giving weapons = yes, so long as it is done believably and in character. However the reciever can't use the gift with much skill, or any special abilities it may have, without weaponry as a spec, or at all if the weapon is above their own rank. Seems reasonable to me (: And really, how often is someone going to be willing to spend some of their own hard earned funds to get a gadget for someone else? I doubt we'll be overrun by Taijutsu specialists running around flailing the extra durable sword their mate gave them. So, solved?

Personally, I'd give a taijutsu expert extra-durable knuckle-dusters, but yes, overall, I'd say solved Giving Away Weapons 287405

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