Naruto Chapter 490 [Spoilers]

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Get ready for another monologue by yours truly. Smile

*Clears throat authoritatively*

I don't know what Kishimoto was thinking when he came up with Madara's design. As a main villain, he is an utter failure. What's the classic image portrayed by a villain? Cool, manipulative and completely unfazed by what goes on in front of him. Madara doesn't seem to possess any of these characteristics. Pein, Orochimaru, Kabuto, heck even Sasuke are better villains than he is. I stick my tongue out to you, Madara.

Moving on, Kabuto sure is a sneaky devil. I wonder what he meant when he said he needed Sasuke to unravel the mystery of Ninjutsu (or whatever it is he said)? Don't tell me he's after the Sharingan too. That Doujutsu getting way too importance if you ask me. From his smirk, seems like he has some plan and Madara's going along with it. As for Anko and her little band of expendable ninja, if Madara doesn't realize that his hideout has been given away by Kabuto (obviously it was done on purpose), then my respect for him will drop even lower. Kabuto so meant for those Konoha ninja to follow him, anyone could tell. Don't you dare trust Kabuto as if he was an innocent pawn, Madara! *Wags finger threateningly*

Oh, and who the heck was in that coffin Kabuto summoned? Judging from Madara's reaction, I'm guessing that the coffin contained the corpse of the real Uchiha Madara, and that "Tobi" is actually some other person impersonating him (like his brother for instance). So, "Madara" would be pretty pissed off that someone figured out that he's not "the real deal", as they say. Of course, that's just a theory. It's about as plausible as any other theory that fans have come up with. Let's hope this theory is wrong, however. I so don't want to go back on the road of "Who's Tobi?" again. Bad enough that we all wondered who he was when they showed us his Sharingan.

Naruto, you startle me. I was expecting him to refuse (especially since his speech seemed to begin in favor of that), but he did that opposite. It's about time he sucked up his pride and admitted that he needs the Kyuubi. Now all that's left is for him to learn a totally pointless upgraded Rasengan (which in the end he won't even use) and he's set to fight Sasuke. Also, Killer Bee's "tebayo" comment was extremely random, pretty weird since he's going to meet up with Naruto soon. They'll be like "Hello-tebayo!" to each other.

Oh yeah, and one last thing. That snake sticking out from behind Kabochimaru's robe is so a tail-like appendage.

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Very good! I always look forward to your summaries and comments on each chapter Uli.

What interests me most is what was in that coffin. I feel like your prediction is quite realistic. "Madara" already revealed himself as Madara, so why would he need that mask anymore if they know of his identity? Suspicious. Or, it could be that Madara is like Paris Hilton and loves accessories, and that the person in that coffin could very well be the 4th Hokage or possibly the 6th Path Seige. But, then again, who knows.

Then again, If Tobi was not Madara and Kabuto summoned Madara, that would make Sasuke distrust everything that "Madara" told him, and Sasuke is a big part of Madara's plans. Also, If Kabuto let the ninja world know that this phony isn't who he claims to be, they would know that his supposed plan is all bullshit, which would make them underestimate Madara's potential. If Madara isnt really Madara, he is using that name for leverage, fear, and respect. To reveal the truth would make him lose that leverage, fear, and respect.

Also, Madara clearly has a big secret & Kabuto apparently knows of this secret. With all the shell of my former self, Zetsu flesh regen arm, & defensive fighting(he never gets into direct combat really) it's pretty much a given that most if not all of his body is made up of Zetsu flesh. Summoning anyone else besides Madara himself doesn't warrant a response like we got. You can not refuse me as in Madara has no say in the matter. If Tobi was not Madara & Madara was summoned then there still is no you can not refuse me. Because clearly Tobi could just say no & try to have Kabuto killed. You can not refuse me implies something different as in Kabuto pulled something that Tobi knows will be able to stop him. Trapping Madara inside of an edo golem fits the bill. Join me or become my slave no much of a chose now is it. Minato gave respect to the "guy in the mask that controlled Kyuubi". Jiraiya suspected that Madara was likely behind the Kyuubi attack when the 4th died, so I would think that the real Madara is alive. Minato said in not so many words, Kyuubi would be needed to defeat the "man in the mask". What other ninja could be that powerful to summon and control Kyuubi and have Sharingan, and could only be defeated with Kyuubi/special power?

I remember Itachi saying once to Sasuke that either Madara was not the last, or only one to get either MS or EMS. I cant remember which one. But if Madara was not the only other Uchiha to have EMS, this "Tobi" could be that Uchiha.

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I don't have much time to post, so here is my thoughts of what was in the coffin. Seeing as Madara cannot really fight, he doesn't have a "real" body. So, I'm thinking in that coffin is his real body. I believe that Madara we see in the manga is the real Madara, and not some imposture.

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Well, if that were to be so, why would that ruffle "Madara's" feathers? Don't you think he would have been delighted to see that or something? He was the opposite. He was very angry, and Kabuto held it to him as if it were blackmail/secret that "Madara".

Also, can any help but always think of the pokemon Kabuto when you think of our 'Naruto'; Kabuto? Haha.

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I thought it was amazing.

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Onemanga didn't have it. o.O

Had to search elsewhere, that's a first. Meh, it was an alright chapter.

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http://www.mangastream.com/read/naruto/490-99/1

And it was another amazing chapter. The 6th coffin coul be the 'real' Madara, Danzo(my frist guess), or maybe the fourth. Either of them seem plausible, and could, and would, be dangerous for Madara and the whole event thing going on :]

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I think It's probably The Fourth, he seems the most likely person that Danzo would fear (Minato's technique, utilized properly, could combat Madara's)

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Though it was kinda stupid when I thought about it, but I knew that the Fourth's return would be extremely badass

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Couldn't it be that Senju guy? The one that Madara couldn't defeat?

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My personal guess is none of the above. Harishama had his soul sucked out so unless Masashi decided to make a MAJOR plot hole (plus, we've already seen Harishama in action so why hide him?) its probably not him. The fourth hokage was worried about Madara, not the other way around. Danzo, unlikely, again Madara wouldn't find this shocking, especially after seeing his entire Akatsuki raised. That said, theres only two people mentioned in the history of Naruto who could honestly shock Madara to that degree. The first one (my least favorite of the two possiblities) is Madara's younger brother- though since Madara was stronger than his little brother based on what we've been told so far, the guess I'm betting on is the Sage of the Six Paths: he's the most powerful person in Naruto's history EVER by far, so it would make a whole lot of sense for Madara to be stunned- and afraid- of him.

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Eh...but wasn't it said that Nagato is the reincarnation of the Sage of Six Paths? I believe so.

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*doesnt even know who the Sage of Six Paths is*

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Nagato is a reincarnation, but is stated to be a vastly weaker one. The sage of the six paths is believed to have been powerful enough to use chibaku tensei to create the entire moon and seal away the 10 tailed beast inside- whereas Nagato used a large portion of his strength to make one that was only a couple hundred feet across.

Zen, Sage of the Six Paths, or the Rikudo Sennin, is the founder of all ninjutsu, the first bearer of the rinnengan, and considered to be the strongest shinobi mentioned in the series.

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it will probly be some guy that we have never heard of or would never think of in a millionyears in the coffin... im realy dieing to know

i know its a long shot and probly way off but i wouldnt mind old pervy coming back

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I agree with Jsalos, it won't be Harishama as we have already seen the first in battle, it wouldn't be Danzo, because he wouldn't be shocked on how Kabuto got his hands on it, as it wasn't that long ago and they just left his body there, no? So it wouldn't be him. It could be perhaps the real Madara body, if such a thing existed, though I really do think it would be the 4th Hokage and I'm really hoping it would be too, loving the idea of Naruto finally taking control, so he will possess Kyuubi's power! So if he faced Kabuto now, seeing the chance of Naruto take on his father would be some sexy Star Wars shit!

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I personally believe that the person in the coffin is actually Yondaime or Madara's brother. The real Madara? Nope, Kishimoto already has too many subplots on his plate, he stated such.

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There have been several speculations that Madara took over Obito Uchiha's body since his original body is infact growing old Smile

butttt this is just another speculations lets just wait for the next chapters to see who the hell is in that coffin that scared Madara and made him said yes to Kabuto.

Anyways, I found it stupid that Sasori was summoned. For the sake of all evil, let him rest in peace, besides! his body is being used by Kankuro as a puppet!

And oh poor Itachi-weasel-kun, being used again... Sad

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Hmm, Minato getting revived. Doesn't seem all that likely, it would be a little anti-climatic if that were to happen. Remember that Orochimaru was supposed to (I say supposed to because it wasn't actually confirmed) have summoned Minato in his fight against Saindame. For Kabuto to summon him, doesn't seem all that original and that big an issue (seeing as we've seen him already there's no reason why he shouldn't be shown). Now, I can see the importance of him summoning the Rikudou Sennin, that would scare the piss out of anyone in my opinion. Add to the fact that we've only seen the Sennin's silhouette thus far, it would make more sense if he was in the coffin instead of Minato.

And where does it say that Kankurou is using Sasori's body? It hasn't been stated yet, so it's pure speculation people. Just because the puppet looks like Sasori doesn't mean it is. It might be a puppet modelled after Sasori.

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I still think it's the first Hokage.

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Actually, Orochimaru failed to summon Yondaime in the fight, which is why Saindame was so relieved. Minoto would've pwned the shizzle out of him. That is why. :]

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I still think last chapter was better, but that's just me. I did like that Anko got a little more screen time. Along with everyone else, I'm really wondering who else Kabuchimaru brought back...

To be honest, I actually kinda want to see what will happen to Karin. I like her now.

I'd talk more about the chapter but I'm not too sure what else to say. 8|

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Pendo wrote:: Actually, Orochimaru failed to summon Yondaime in the fight, which is why Saindame was so relieved. Minoto would've pwned the shizzle out of him. That is why.

Actually, it's shown that Saindaime managed to suppress the summoning of the third coffin, not that it failed by itself. At least that's what was implied. And saying Minato would have "pwned" Saindaime is HUGELY inaccurate. Minato would have beaten Saindame before the casket even opened. Smile

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Ulkira wrote:

Pendo wrote:: Actually, Orochimaru failed to summon Yondaime in the fight, which is why Saindame was so relieved. Minoto would've pwned the shizzle out of him. That is why.

Actually, it's shown that Saindaime managed to suppress the summoning of the third coffin, not that it failed by itself. At least that's what was implied. And saying Minato would have "pwned" Saindaime is HUGELY inaccurate. Minato would have beaten Saindame before the casket even opened. Smile

Everything true, though I did not see reason to go into detail considering we all should know that. But yes, that is why Yondaime would be quite a surprise to Madara, the person who foiled his attempted strike on Konoha.

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Yondaime would not be surprising: he's quite an obvious choice, considering orochimaru already tried to summon him once, and remember, he fought the fourth before when he attacked konoha- that level of shock wouldn't have been created by bringing back an old foe who merely foiled his attempts to destroy a village.