Tetsujin

Posts : 90

This is a request to revise the archived Tetsujin Bloodline. As I am not the creator of the clan I am not sure if this is even allowed but I am very much interested in this bloodline. If this is at all an option I look forward to working to staff to get it up and running once more.

Posts : 1729

Moved to Forum Assistance.

Anyway, the reason the clan was archived, or at least part of the reason, was that one of our resident admins, Darius, aka Cookie Monster, intended to create his own Metal Release clan. So, you'd have to ask him.

Age : 29 Posts : 4301

A more thorough reason however is that the clan itself had a numerous amount of issues with the techniques that required urgent moderation. Yet, given that the original creator of the clan has, shockingly, disappeared once more, we're unable to gain his attention to work out any moderation that may be required. Thus, the decision was made that the clan be archived until the original creator of the clan returns or instead a new clan is made, which admittedly I do have interest in making, though that wasn't the sole reason for its archival. You're more than welcome to create your own version of the clan, but if you intend to mimic or copy parts of the clan, you'll require the permission of the original creator I'm afraid.

Posts : 90

Being new to the site can someone tell me what the major issues with the archived version are. This way I can be sure not to make the same mistakes. The first two clan jutsu Kitaeru, Seiren would be the base to almost any Kaneton based clan. Granted the wording and name of these jutsu could be different but at its core those jutsu are almost unavoidable.

Age : 32 Posts : 1912

Well, steel is pretty OP because you can be pretty much impenetrable if you make body armor techniques no one can pierce.

But about the whole "Not being able to use stuff the user made", I would like to point out that Steel is a Canon element, so shouldn't it be treated as one? It's not like (Insert name) made the element and it's belongings, so that in itself should allow Katsumi some space to edit around the old stuff, correct?

Age : 31 Posts : 8965

Spectre wrote:: Well, steel is pretty OP because you can be pretty much impenetrable if you make body armor techniques no one can pierce.

But about the whole "Not being able to use stuff the user made", I would like to point out that Steel is a Canon element, so shouldn't it be treated as one? It's not like (Insert name) made the element and it's belongings, so that in itself should allow Katsumi some space to edit around the old stuff, correct?

It's like you didn't even read Dari's post. He said that wasn't the reason it was archived. The clan as you said is hard to make work without being considered too overpowered. It's free for a new person to make if they see fit.

As for what you're pointing out in regards to it being Canon. The only Steel Release shown in Naruto was in the third movie. It's hardly considered Canon. All that Steel Release was shown to be good for in the movie was to create indestructible armour which obviously isn't allowed.

Age : 29 Posts : 4301

Spectre wrote:: But about the whole "Not being able to use stuff the user made", I would like to point out that Steel is a Canon element, so shouldn't it be treated as one? It's not like (Insert name) made the element and it's belongings, so that in itself should allow Katsumi some space to edit around the old stuff, correct?

I think you may have misinterpreted what I said. What I was trying to say was that no one would be able to copy and paste the techniques, the entire KKG description or other material over to their own clan and claim it as their own. In order to do so, they'd require the permission of the original creator of this information. So if someone wanted to transfer a technique over, then they'd have to seek permission from the creator of the clan before transferring it. I'm not saying that just because Shiro was the first person to create a Metal release clan, he is therefore the only person who can create anything metal related and everyone else must gain permission from him. That'd just be silly.

Age : 32 Posts : 1912

Adam wrote:

Spectre wrote:: Well, steel is pretty OP because you can be pretty much impenetrable if you make body armor techniques no one can pierce.

But about the whole "Not being able to use stuff the user made", I would like to point out that Steel is a Canon element, so shouldn't it be treated as one? It's not like (Insert name) made the element and it's belongings, so that in itself should allow Katsumi some space to edit around the old stuff, correct?

It's like you didn't even read Dari's post. He said that wasn't the reason it was archived. The clan as you said is hard to make work without being considered too overpowered. It's free for a new person to make if they see fit.

As for what you're pointing out in regards to it being Canon. The only Steel Release shown in Naruto was in the third movie. It's hardly considered Canon. All that Steel Release was shown to be good for in the movie was to create indestructible armour which obviously isn't allowed.

@Adam - If it was shown and used in the anime/movies/manga, it is Canon. Whether Metal was used in an OP way or not, it was still used, so you can't possibly hope to deny it's Canon. And I did read what Darius said, I was just answering Katsumi when he talked about the metal element in his last post, so there is really no need to pull the "Do you even read" card.

@Darius - I figured you meant that much, I was referring to that I thought that what he had in use was off limits. Obviously the whole copy/pasting would be locked, I just thought that you meant that the concepts of what was used was off limits, seeing as that would have meant that the new clan would have very little to work with =P

Thanks for clarifying though =P

Age : 29 Posts : 3145

Not at all Vergil. Anything that hasn't been in the manga is not canon. Movies and filler arcs are thus considered non-canon as they weren't made by Kishi and are not referred to or even acknowledg by the manga. The use of metal has both appeared in a movie and in a filler arc (of the original Naruto series), hence we can't really say they're canon. If the movies were canon, Naruto would be able to perform a lot more types of rasengan than he can now xD

Age : 29 Posts : 4301

Solved.