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Tournament: What to do | Have a Tournament: Have separate ones in Kumogakure and Konohagakure. | | 17% | [ 4 ] | Have a Tournament: Have a joint one in Kumogakure or Konohagakure. | | 13% | [ 3 ] | Have a Tournament: Have a joint one in a minor country for fairness sake. | | 57% | [ 13 ] | Don't have a Tournament: It's too much work / I don't want to be a part of it anyway. | | 13% | [ 3 ] | Other: Lets do this! [Explain what this is in a post on the topic] | | 0% | [ 0 ] |
| Total Votes : 23 | | Poll closed |
| Captain Konoha
Age : 32 Posts : 1912
| Subject: Tournament. Tue 24 Sep 2013, 3:28 pm | |
| Should we make a Tournament for the village to take part in, yes or no?
There is an "Other" option, so if you have an idea that is not on the list, please state it so that we can discuss and possibly vote for that bit too. Keep in mind that if you vote, you can still Cancel it and go for the Other option.
Please show your support and keep the place active. |
| | | MsMoney
Age : 37 Posts : 2201
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Tue 24 Sep 2013, 11:13 pm | |
| Having a tournament that nobody is forced into ( I voted the first option) can't hurt anyone. So, yah. |
| | | Captain Konoha
Age : 32 Posts : 1912
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Tue 24 Sep 2013, 11:15 pm | |
| - MsMoney wrote:
- Having a tournament that nobody is forced into ( I voted the first option) can't hurt anyone. So, yah.
Obviously, no one will be forced into anything. We do not want to force people into doing things they do not want to do, at least I know I don't want that. |
| | | Ancladar
Age : 33 Posts : 544
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 1:06 am | |
| I'd love a tournament, but I'm not in kirigakure. Can it be a Kiri hosted tournament with divisions between ranks? Also what would the prizes be? |
| | | Captain Konoha
Age : 32 Posts : 1912
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 1:45 am | |
| - Ancladar wrote:
- I'd love a tournament, but I'm not in kirigakure. Can it be a Kiri hosted tournament with divisions between ranks? Also what would the prizes be?
I think you misunderstood. The Tournaments are only hosted in Kumo and Konoha, or in a place between these two if people want a combined Tournament. Kirigakure is not involved because there are not enough people in the place to even host something for just the Genin. If they want to be a part of this, they need to get their choices out so they can either join Konoha or Kumo, allowing them to join in on all of this.
As for the prizes, I have no idea, though I am sure something can be worked out with Staff. |
| | | Ancladar
Age : 33 Posts : 544
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 2:23 am | |
| Ah okay. As for prizes perhaps an instant rank up for the winner, a cool weapon, or perhaps a rare item that boosts chakra by a small amount! Those would be cool and I cast my vote. I've been looking for a tournament for awhile =D |
| | | Tsumi Buredo
Age : 27 Posts : 260
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 3:34 am | |
| I personally vote for this to take place as an inter-village-ranking kind of thing, in a minor nation, so that everyone can participate
EDIT- By inter-village-ranking, I mean that ninja should be grouped by rank, regardless of village, and allowed to duke it out from there. |
| | | Keos
Age : 29 Posts : 1585
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 4:25 am | |
| My vote is negative. This is not the time for something like that. We need to maintain what's left of activity by attracting more members and keeping the forum organized. There isn't anybody who can handle the preparation or pull off a tournament or supervise the actual thing. And leaving Kirigakure out is even worse. What we need to do is help it turn active, not bury it. |
| | | Tsumi Buredo
Age : 27 Posts : 260
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 5:33 am | |
| - Panda wrote:
- What we need to do is help it turn active, not bury it.
All of the this. |
| | | Aries
Age : 36 Posts : 1004
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 7:21 am | |
| Hooah!! Finally something worth while getting me to post again. I vote yes I don't care where and my decision is final. |
| | | Captain Konoha
Age : 32 Posts : 1912
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 12:07 pm | |
| - Panda wrote:
- My vote is negative. This is not the time for something like that. We need to maintain what's left of activity by attracting more members and keeping the forum organized. There isn't anybody who can handle the preparation or pull off a tournament or supervise the actual thing. And leaving Kirigakure out is even worse. What we need to do is help it turn active, not bury it.
Not doing anything is exactly what will bury it, just like the whole 3 village thing is making the whole thing much worse than it has to be. Kirigakure, I mean, the three remaining blue people won't be left out, seeing as they can just leave and join another village so that they can both boost their own activity and that of their new village. We still have me, Aaron and BK around, seeing as you have to leave on Monday. That leaves at least three people who can pull this off. Additionally, we have at least two Evaluation moderators running around that can help with any possible problems that may arise.
I'm not saying it won't be a bit of a hassle to set up, but there are a lot of people who already want to do this, and as I said before, not doing Anything and sitting on our ass while everyone disappears is not an alternative, unless of course you are one of the people that wants the site to die. If that is the case, by all means, work against it. If you do want the site to flourish, even if it is only during the Tournament itself, it would have been worth while in my opinion. It's a Naruto site, the Manga and the Anime are reaching their end. If we don't hold on to what we can, it WILL die.
Sorry if I am being awful and blunt about this, but this is not the time to be sitting on our ass, because Evaluations took a blow when Amy left, BK is pretty much overdue for a meltdown because he does pretty much everything else while you are also leaving next week. Just saying, the longer we wait, the easier it will get for US to die. |
| | | Aaron
Age : 28 Posts : 2538
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 2:39 pm | |
| I think having an optional tournament in a minor nation is a good idea. So long as it's optional, those who want to participate can, I think it would be a good move to keep activity up. I wouldn't mind helping to organise it, if required. |
| | | NuclearTreerat
Age : 49 Posts : 1036
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 3:27 pm | |
| With all due respect Spectre, by saying "join the other villages or be left out" you ARE effectively trying to bury Kiri. Yes they have a serious issue to too few people, but telling them that even an inter-village event can't be joined unless they change villages is only going to drive them away instead of enticing them to join another. Carrot first, then the stick Vergil, carrot then the stick.
Personally I say if the event is inter-village, let them join. No reason they shouldn't/ couldn't. If it ends up being held within each village and they can't muster enough people to have one, well that is their ill luck. And we don't need staff to run an event. This was covered several times in the Activity thread but based on their past when staff get involved in these things it pretty much implodes. Its time to show that we the players can do just as well if not better when it comes to events etc.
Heck since I'm not really ambitious enough to fight in this thing my character could act as referee. |
| | | Captain Konoha
Age : 32 Posts : 1912
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 4:46 pm | |
| - NuclearTreerat wrote:
- With all due respect Spectre, by saying "join the other villages or be left out" you ARE effectively trying to bury Kiri. Yes they have a serious issue to too few people, but telling them that even an inter-village event can't be joined unless they change villages is only going to drive them away instead of enticing them to join another. Carrot first, then the stick Vergil, carrot then the stick.
Personally I say if the event is inter-village, let them join. No reason they shouldn't/ couldn't. If it ends up being held within each village and they can't muster enough people to have one, well that is their ill luck. And we don't need staff to run an event. This was covered several times in the Activity thread but based on their past when staff get involved in these things it pretty much implodes. Its time to show that we the players can do just as well if not better when it comes to events etc.
Heck since I'm not really ambitious enough to fight in this thing my character could act as referee. What's this, afraid to come at me?
Nah, but I get your point. If this is to pass, I would not really see problem in letting Kirigakure join. Problem being that some might try to kill them for some of the actions committed against the other villages, which is something I do not want during the entire thing. Just saying, it's supposed to be fun, not a bloodbath. That said, if Kirigakure wants to join, I guess that's fine.
Edit: Aaron, I can every soul that wants to help, so you would be very welcome xD |
| | | Aaron
Age : 28 Posts : 2538
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 4:53 pm | |
| Oh and just to add to my original point, I don't think Kirigakure should be banned from this tournament, either. I simply don't see the reasoning behind it. |
| | | Ancladar
Age : 33 Posts : 544
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 5:00 pm | |
| I don't think Amy left for good did she? It's just college is really hard in the fall semester. Activity always dies down a bit during the first couple of months of the new semester, but will generally pick up near thanksgiving or winter break. At least from my experience it does. |
| | | Captain Konoha
Age : 32 Posts : 1912
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 5:10 pm | |
| - Aaron wrote:
Oh and just to add to my original point, I don't think Kirigakure should be banned from this tournament, either. I simply don't see the reasoning behind it. They are not banned, it's just that the risk for them is greater due to the whole thing that happened during the Event. Villages were ready to declare war, though people went inactive and that didn't pull through. This does not mean that the remaining people are forgiving now, because they have plenty of reason to just go and attack the first they see. Still, I hope people can look past that when and if all of this happens.
Also, Amy is not leaving for good Ancladar, so no worries. |
| | | Ancladar
Age : 33 Posts : 544
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 5:14 pm | |
| Ah alright. Also a tournament could attract more people. A lot of writers like to fight so seeing a tournament going on could attract them so I'm all for it. Let kiri join too I have no idea why they'd be banned anyways. It wouldn't be fair. |
| | | Keos
Age : 29 Posts : 1585
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 5:28 pm | |
| - Spectre wrote:
- [...] I would not really see problem in letting Kirigakure join. [...] That said, if Kirigakure wants to join, I guess that's fine. [...]
Really? Thank you for your permission, sir. Kiri will join whatever the reason you don't like it. An event cannot be held with exceptions, unless Kiri members don't want to join. Anyway, I can talk to Aaron so that we can come up with something quick and I will contact Adam as soon as possible in order to have admin approval. I will make sure to have a "no killing" rule included. Whoever wants to help by sharing ideas or suggestions, or wanting to prepare something, PM me.
We concluded that many members want to join this kind of event. If everything goes well we'll have an event ready by the end of the week. I would like you to wait though. Don't start posting event announcements, we'll do that. |
| | | Captain Konoha
Age : 32 Posts : 1912
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 5:56 pm | |
| Don't be like that. You'd not even come up with something this simple if I hadn't suggested it, so don't be a dick about it. Aaron already offered to help out, and there is no need to take any of this out of my hands because I already worked out a lot of this. You guys can also try to come up with your own things, rather than saying "Hurr, it's a Tournament, anyone can come up with thaaat". I heard that one already, though I see no other suggestions or planned events similar to this... so please, don't act high and mighty and go with the flow of things please. There are a lot of people that may still need to post, so if we can wait that out first, that would be nice.
You know the reason why Kirigakure was excluded and stated something to counter those people getting killed when they show up, good. If that's worked out, there is no reason to keep anyone out. And yeah, Kumogakure and Konohagakure are in an alliance now, so if this was to be a Tournament for just them, it could sure as hell exclude Kirigakure. So like I said, stop playing all high and mighty and go along with how things are playing out.
Thank you very much.
EDIT: Sorry for being mean. We talked it out on Skype and it's pretty much fixed now, so to the people who do read this, there is no bad blood and this is still going to happen. We just don't know when until the big bear wakes up. |
| | | Dari's Angel
Age : 25 Posts : 1767
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 6:28 pm | |
| - NuclearTreerat wrote:
- With all due respect Spectre, by saying "join the other villages or be left out" you ARE effectively trying to bury Kiri. Yes they have a serious issue to too few people, but telling them that even an inter-village event can't be joined unless they change villages is only going to drive them away instead of enticing them to join another. Carrot first, then the stick Vergil, carrot then the stick.
Personally I say if the event is inter-village, let them join. No reason they shouldn't/ couldn't. If it ends up being held within each village and they can't muster enough people to have one, well that is their ill luck. And we don't need staff to run an event. This was covered several times in the Activity thread but based on their past when staff get involved in these things it pretty much implodes. Its time to show that we the players can do just as well if not better when it comes to events etc.
Heck since I'm not really ambitious enough to fight in this thing my character could act as referee. Mostly this. And other stuff people have said before. Few questions mind. Are we allowing the very few Nukenin around to enter too? Are we separating this by rank, and if we are, will there be rank mixing at some point? Also I'm not happy to help because that's effort but I have lots of effort spare at the moment so if anything needs doing I don't mind contributing at all. I'm not too concerned, long as some progress is made on this and we get something going and an activity boost, even if it's a small one, at some point in the future, I'm good. |
| | | Captain Konoha
Age : 32 Posts : 1912
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Wed 25 Sep 2013, 6:36 pm | |
| To be blunt about it.
I don't intend to have rank mixing at a later point, because I believe something like it should be done right away. This would be as followed.
Genin Pool Exp. Genin + Chuunin Pool Special Jounin + Jounin pool Master Jounin + S Rank pool
It's just to figure out the amount of people that will be in it really before I can actually figure out which of the rules I made should, you know, apply for all of this. I would first like to wait till the end of the week to see how many votes things get. I wouldn't want a Tournament only a few people will like while the rest will just decide it's not worth their time. |
| | | NuclearTreerat
Age : 49 Posts : 1036
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Thu 26 Sep 2013, 1:41 am | |
| - Spectre wrote:
- What's this, afraid to come at me?
Nah, but I get your point. If this is to pass, I would not really see problem in letting Kirigakure join. Problem being that some might try to kill them for some of the actions committed against the other villages, which is something I do not want during the entire thing. Just saying, it's supposed to be fun, not a bloodbath. That said, if Kirigakure wants to join, I guess that's fine.
Edit: Aaron, I can every soul that wants to help, so you would be very welcome xD Do you really want to fight someone whose idea of a "fair fight" is to cover your house with explosive tags, soak the roof in a mix of naphtha and tar, then bringing the whole flammable mess down on your head while you're sleeping off the hangover from the 3-day bender he paid for?
And between my character being the type who hates horse-and-pony shows, and his player being the sort who just finds most tournaments annoying, it wouldn't hold a whole lot of interest for him to participate. Now scaring and/or beating the piss out of a snooty punk who can't understand what "the fight is over" means so badly that battle-hardened ninja flinch - THAT would be a blast and for more in-character to Toshiro. |
| | | Ancladar
Age : 33 Posts : 544
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Thu 26 Sep 2013, 6:10 am | |
| Also what is the arena gonna be like? Will it be open, or will it be like a section of forest? Will people be there to step in before things get too deadly? |
| | | Captain Konoha
Age : 32 Posts : 1912
| Subject: Re: Tournament. Thu 26 Sep 2013, 9:40 pm | |
| - Ancladar wrote:
- Also what is the arena gonna be like? Will it be open, or will it be like a section of forest? Will people be there to step in before things get too deadly?
My thoughts were pretty simple on the matter. People fight in a ring that is pretty similar to how the old Gladiators fought. No trees, no mountains, no terrain bonuses for those who might have the element to back it up. People can shape the landscape in whatever way they want when fighting though Earth release or Water release or whatever. It just seems to be most fair to just have a simple field that grants no one an advantage or disadvantage.
- NukeRat wrote:
- And between my character being the type who hates horse-and-pony shows, and his player being the sort who just finds most tournaments annoying, it wouldn't hold a whole lot of interest for him to participate. Now scaring and/or beating the piss out of a snooty punk who can't understand what "the fight is over" means so badly that battle-hardened ninja flinch - THATwould be a blast and for more in-character to Toshiro.
Just sign up damnit, or there won't be enough higher ranked people for me to participate in it xD |
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