Heat Based Katon Jutsu

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I have a question. Katon based jutsu that focuses on heat, more specifically heat waves and temperature changes, still classified as Katon jutsu. Or will this automatically become An Advance Element requiring two or more elements. Keep in mind that Katon based jutsu does not only deal with fire. The reason i ask if that My clan is a diligent users of the Fire and Fire based jutsu and I want to know if i can use some fire jutsu based on heat without getting the "You can do that without..." Sign

Thanks for the help.

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I'm pretty sure heat based jutsu using Katon wouldn't become an advance element.

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Give me about half hour and I will give a fairly detailed response to this.

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Blaize wrote:: Keep in mind that Katon based jutsu does not only deal with fire.

First I would like to address this statement in your post. You see chakra is a very touchy force, and acts only in specific ways. Translated in the manga sense, Katon from japaneese to english stands for "fire release" or "fire elment". This being said, Katon based jutsu DO in fact only deal with fire contrary to your statement. As shown in all the series, all the katon techniques were entirely about the fire. I could be wrong on this, and if I am please link me your source.

Next I would like to detail, or rather just point out that while heat is a byproduct of fire, it is not the only thing from which it is created, and to funnel heat based techniuqes to be strictly Katon is to essentially say the same thing as heat only comes from fire. What about Raiton, or lightning techniques. Last time I checked Lightning was quite a bit hotter then most fire.

The final thing I would like to say on this is that all the katon techniques shown have all been in the range of orange-red flame, which in the world of fire, is a relatively cold flame. Even if you were able to manipulate heat through katon techniques, which you would have to come up with a very good logical reason as to why exactly you should be able to and how precisely it would be done, you would be vastly limited by this fact. The only fire not shown to be in this category in color and does have a much more intense burn is Amaterasu, which is black (which id like to note does not actually exist as a color of flame but that aside), and is in fact, an advanced element. To even begin to fully tap into the potential of using heat from flames, you would have to make it an advanced element which created flames outside the specturm of the orange-red area. This, I know, was explained to you by Hugh on the chat box as I was there when he told you this.

Do not take any of what I said offensively, I am merely laying out the knowledge I have about heat etc and how it pertains to the naru-verse. Though I admit I am still baffled as to how you came to the conclusion that not all katon (fire release) techniques deal with not just fire.

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1) I think I read it some wear in some site.

2) Also because of tech like Mist Walts Tech? I could be wrong but these were examples of what was in my head and why I said what I said.

P.S I do not take offense.

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Techniques like Mist Waltz and Burning Ash Accumulation, (my personal favorite), create the source of the fire, but when looked at like that, holds no real weight to my argument. First let me say that creating the source and manipulating a by-product are not even closely related. Second may I suggest looking at it from this angle. Katon chakra is the normal source for katon techniques. Rather they are not creating something new, but simply having their chakra take another form before becoming the flame. Also past that, in any case, they are not manipulating these sources, they are simply producing them. To back this up "However, this technique requires keen senses to read the air currents, the insight to read the movements of the enemy, the tactical experience to not also enfold one's allies in the flames, and careful attention for the timing of the ignition." note this part of the description for Burning Ash Accumulation. This more or less entails that the user has no control over it and therefore is not manipulating it.

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Burning Ash Accumulation is legit.

Though with this help, It kinda Kills my 'use of heat' for my clan. It looks like I will have to change it when A mod post on my clan. It is alright though. I thought I could find some way to use other sources of fire, mostly heat ^_^

Thank you for the knowledge

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No problem my offer for you to use the blaze clan is still on the table good sir Razz

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Thank you sir.

no offense I want to try to make my clan as best as I can. Like the originality of knowing to use something you have made. A childish concept but I like it ^_^

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More then fair enough Very Happy

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