more Weapon techniques for Saya.

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Name: Object Assault
Type: Weaponry[Shojutsu or Kenjutsu]
Rank: D-S
Element: None
Description: This technique involves assaulting the item being carried in your opponent's hands, instead of their body. By using powerful attacks and focusing on a single section of the opponents weapon, the impact can cause an opponents weapon to break. The effects of each strike is cumulative with recurring strikes, as rarely is a weapon so shoddily constructed that it will break in one blow. Damage dealt to the weapon is based off the relative ranks of the weapons involved in the strike. If a weapon is of equal rank to Saya's, it will receive a small chip, and be concidered 1 rank lower for further uses of this attack. Weapons 1 rank lower are effected in the same way. They wil receieve a small chip, and be concidered 1 rank lower for further use of this technique. A weapon that is 2 ranks lower will crack when hit by this technique, and be concidered 1 rank lower for further uses of this attack. Weapons 3 ranks lower will be fractured, but not break. They will be rendered weakened, and very close to breaking. Continued use of the weapon might break it even if it is not struck by this attack again. Weapon's 4 ranks beneath the weapon used for this attack will break and be unusable until they are repaired. This attack requires no chakra, however it requires that saya has an increase to her strength for each hit. This attack has no effect on items held together by chakra, unless the blade is also infused with chakra. Likewise, this attack does not affect weapons of higher rank than the weapon used for this attack.
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Name: Lasso
Type: Weaponry[Kogetsu-Shoge]
Rank: C
Element: None
Description: This is a weapon technique used to disable an enemy. By pulling the chain through the weighted steel ring attached to the end of it, the weapon can be formed into a slipknot much like a dog's choke collar. This loop can be thrown around a person and pulled tight to wrap around their body. Removing the chain is difficult once it's been wrapped around someone and is all but impossible is Saya if still pulling the chain tight. If Saya is stronger than her opponent, she can drag the person along willing or not with the chain.
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Name: Snare Weapon/Disarm
Rank: C/B
Type: Weaponry[Koketsu-Shoge]
Element:None
Description: By wrapping the chain around a weapon, the person holding using a Kyoketsu-shoge is able to render the weapon unusable. With sufficent skill the user of this technique can even disarm an opponent by pulling the weapon out of their hands. This technique requires no chakra, and is just one of the many uses of the Koketsu-Shoge. By means of this technique the soldier uses the chain as a whip, and entangle anything of suitable size and shape. Shuriken and the like would be difficult to grab, though axes and clubs and swords and almost all other manner of melee weapon that isn't very small is up for grabs, so to speak. The more complicated and jagged the weapon, the more vulnerable it is to this technique because it gives even more area for the chain to grip and catch on. Regardless of simplicity, even a simple straight edged blade can get tangled up in the strong chain of the weapon, but removing the chain is easier once pressure is released. Like a lasso, if you stop pulling on the chain, the loop will go slack.

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Not to custom weapons, basic weapons only.

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huh? I'm not sure I understand? In any case, I made some minor changes to most of these. might want to look at them again. I'm not sure what you meant, but I hope I fixed the problem? >.>

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Sorry for misinformation. I meant you can't destroy custom weapons, other weapons that users created with abilities.

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I made a slight change to the weapon breaking technique. I added that it can not break chakra infused weapons unless it too is infused with chakra. I hope that helps? I'm not sure what you mean by created items, I assume you mean like crystal or bone swords or something? I don't see why I couldn't cut through those, unless it has to do with chakra. I don't think anything is unbreakable?

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Bump? Are these ready for approval yet?

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I believe what Travis is trying to say is that you can't destroy custom weapons other user's made that have special abilities.

Example;

You can destroy someone's normal ordinary katana or tanto.

You cannot destroy someone's katana that has any sort of special abilities such as... A fan that can wield the wind element, a kunai that can camouflage with the background, or something like a sword that can ooze poison from a hidden compartment.

Did I get that right, Travis? Did that clear things up?

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I don't see why not. Such items can be repaired and used again in further fights. Just because a weapon is not considered "Magical" or "Custom" doesn't mean is of lesser quality or importantce to a fighter. As my character is rather a strict soldier who lives for her weapons, would dispair at the breaking of her high quality, but otherwise completely normal katana. It's an extension of her mind, soul, and body, even if it isn't custom. In spite of all that, it is still breakable. Because weapons break. >.>

If any sort of weapon is going to be unbreakable, this whole jutsu is pointless. I could see it not affecting weapons of higher rank, which I neglected to clarify in the description. I just don't think someones magical paper fan is going to stand up against a well sharpened katana. I should also note that people do have the option of putting their weapons away when Saya starts trying to break them.

I could easily see this being a non-issue, as the item can be repaired after the topic is over, just like a non-custom weapon. It would only be disabling it until the person using it left the fight and got it fixed. Mending items is a common practice among smiths, and in our current eco-friendly world, we should all encourage recycling!

Honestly, as I see it, this doesn't forever remove an item, nor does it break most items in one shot. Even used against a weapon 2 ranks lower, which most weapons are for Saya, it doesn't break them in one shot. It just chips them good. Breaking a D Ranked weapon takes two posts. Breaking a C ranked weapon takes 3 posts, and breaking a B ranked weapon takes 4 posts. That's a lot of work and effort to get rid of a weapon.

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Yea you did Cyanide.

Wind, the reason is because they do training topics for it to be like how it is. Its specially made, meaning you shouldn't be able to destroy them.

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Travis wrote:: Yea you did Cyanide.

Wind, the reason is because they do training topics for it to be like how it is. Its specially made, meaning you shouldn't be able to destroy them.

Well to be frank, I do hate to come in and correct fellow Staff, but techs to destroy custom weapons have been created before and do indeed exist, in fact, any attack of a higher rank can deal damage to a weapon, thats just how it works out. In between topics, the user is assumed to simply repair it, so the destruction is never permanent, only for the topic. Its fine to have a tech to destroy weapons, so long as its reasonable and balanced with the attacks rank.

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So what does that mean for approval?

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No, that means now I'll probably have to go over it now that I've posted in it...

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Yes it does.

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Object Assault; you keep mentioning ranks but is it your own rank or the jutsu rank? Needs to be specified, also I don't think a chip is going to make a weapon less effective to the point of dropping a rank, it just doesn't make any sense. This technique is going to have to cost chakra as well, theres no avoiding that especially with the way this technique is.

Lasso; why is the chain difficult to remove? A shinobi could simply break it with sheer force, melt it, cut it off, slip out of it with the use of jutsu, etc. so what exactly are you trying to describe with that statement?

Snare; a dinky little chain isn't going to do much to stop powerful weapons, especially special weapons or large weapons, so you're going to have to edit to reflect that. Also, I don't see how you could jam every weapon someone could have, that would require a knowledge of their weapon, so at best you could only throw your chain and hope it stops it, which in most cases special functions in the weapon will dash that hope.

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Object Assault: It is stated clearly in the jutsu. "Damage dealt to the weapon is based off the relative ranks of the weapons involved in the strike." This means it's based off the weapon being used, not the jutsu or the user of the technique. If you pull out a D ranked weapon, you're not gonna get very far. Pull out an A ranked weapon, and the world is your oyster. Also, as stated, the rank decrease is illusory, and only matters when comparing it to further uses of this same jutsu. An A ranked blade will be considered a B ranked blade on the next strike, however for all other purposes it still retains it's previous rank. This way, it takes more time and effort to break a higher quality weapon, and an easier time breaking lesser quality weapons.

Lasso: It's hard to get out of for the obvious reasons. As it's a lasso, as long as the rope is being held tightly it's hard to get out of. If you think you can just break a metal chain, that's fine. Breaking a metal chain is what I would call "Not easy". I just don't want people thinking they can pull the lasso over their head and be free, because that is not possible. As explained it is like a dog's choke collar, and when held tight, it grips the person being held tightly. but yes, you can melt it or break it, or whatever else is appropriate to your character. However, I doubt anyone around here can just break a metal chain, and only people who have greatly increased strength would be able to do that. It is a metal chain, after all, and not a peice of yarn.

The Kusari Gama is a versatile weapon. Look it up. Disarming, and tangling up in weapons is what this thing was made to do. I'm not sure why you have a problem with a disarm technique basd purely off the REAL WORLD functionality of a real world weapon. By wrapping the chain around a blade or whatever, you can ensare it just like lassoing a person. I really don't see where there's a problem with this? It's only limitation is that size, as it would be very difficult to wrap a chain around something as small as a kunai or shuriken. This is already explained in the technique, however, so I don't see why it came up. btw, the Kogetsu Shoge is the same thing as a kusari gama, however instead of a weighted ball at the end of the chain, it has weighted ring.

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Name: Lasso
Type: Weaponry[Kogetsu-Shoge]
Rank: C
Element: None
Description: This is a weapon technique used to disable an enemy. By pulling the chain through the weighted steel ring attached to the end of it, the weapon can be formed into a slipknot much like a dog's choke collar. This loop can be thrown around a person and pulled tight to wrap around their body. Removing the chain is difficult once it's been wrapped around someone and is all but impossible is Saya if still pulling the chain tight. If Saya is stronger than her opponent, she can drag the person along willing or not with the chain.

You do realize, that with this technique, if its soley physical in nature, I think the E-rank Rope escaping jutsu could be used to escape this- a technique that all shinobi have.

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Granted. I understand that well enough. Really this isn't even a technique so much as a natural use of the weapon, much like slashing with a sword, or throwing a pair or bolas. It's just what the weapon is used for.

I really only turn them into jutsu, because they are good enough of natural abilities to be concidered a weapon technique. You could do this same thing with only a length of chain, and it would have the same result. Lassoing a ninja may seem pointless, but making them use up more effort than you is how you eventually win some fights.

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Well anyhow, looks fine, approved for training.

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Have you trained for this? Or was it added to your application during your update? If so, I will have to archive it.