Various Stuff.

Age : 29 Posts : 1585

I just have to make a couple of objections on the weaponry system, as in my humnle opinion it seems to be unfair by a specific respect.

Quote :: In terms of Weaponry, there is a limit as to how many weapons your character is able to possess in regards to your character's ranking. They are as followed:

(reason out of the table-thing:( C-Rank Ninja can only have one C-Rank weapon.

So my point is that it is completely unfair to own only one weapon. It really is hindering development and variety in a weaponry user. On the other hand, what happens to someone who just wants to fight in double swords?

Quote :: While all Nin know a few things about poisons, few have the practiced skill or training to use them in battle. Only characters with Puppetry or Medical Ninjutsu specialties may use poisons.

I mean, why? They do know a lot more about how to create a poison or an antidote but why shouldn't a weaponry user wield a canon poison to aid his weapon effectiveness. It is too much, I believe.

I do not intend to imply anything about the one who created the system, but having a C-Rank user, with only 15 Jutsu and only one weapon, restricted to have weaponry and taijutsu due to the Kaguya Clan requirements, it is not the best senario. I hope someone looks through my post and proves me wrong.

Age : 31 Posts : 1836

Well, I can't say anything about the first issue (even though I agree it's very limiting), but the second point is completely sound, in my opinion. Poisons have only been used in the series by Medical Ninja and Puppetry users. Tenten, the best example we have of a Weaponry user, did not use any item with poison in it. Not everyone can make or use poisons effectively as Puppeteers and Medical Ninja (who are required to have an above-average knowledge of the human body to use their skills effectively in combat, albeit to different extents). Believing that a Weaponry user should be able to use poisons is the same as believing that a Weaponry user can use Taijutsu as effectively as an actual Taijutsu user.

Age : 29 Posts : 1585

Okay, I can have a step back on my second point. But I believe that my first objection should be taken into consideration.

Age : 29 Posts : 3145

Well I don't really see your first point as valid, as you can only have one C Rank Weapon. If you closely look at the descriptions of D and C rank weapons, you will see that there is largely no difference between them - a D rank is standard, whilst C is more exotic + little stronger at best. So you can have multiple D Rank Katanas, as in your example.

P.S Seeing as the Kaguya techniques are all Taijutsu, you don't need Weaponry as your specialty. Is it stated somewhere that you do?

Age : 29 Posts : 766

All Kaguya techniques are Taijutsu. I was thinking about making a Kaguya character, but I haven't confirmed with myself. I never seen it saying that you need weaponry. A possible reason may be the the first two techniques; The spine whip and the arm sword. Honestly I can't recall the second one, but both are wielded as a weapon, and that may have been the root of the problem?

Age : 49 Posts : 1036

The weapons part I can agree with. It really makes no sense when, for example, one has both swords and ranged and every weapon in either list is C-ranked or above. Granted the moderators really don't enforce the limits that much, but to me that says that it's a rule that needs to be changed to reflect the actual situation. That or the weapons list needs a major change in how most of the weapons are ranked so that the majority of the "standard" weapons are truly D-ranked like the description says with C-ranked and above weapons actually being the "unusually shaped, sized or having unusual sharpness."

The poison part I can see to a degree. Having a background that includes some toxicology, actually making a stable poison that can be delivered to a target with effect is takes a lot of trial-and-error and no small amount of knowledge. The same with applying it and not poisoning yourself in the process. Now beyond that I don't see is why someone couldn't have another player with the relevant skills doctor a weapon for certain situations; silently disabling a target at range without killing them comes to mind.

Age : 29 Posts : 766

This also raised a question. What if someone gave you the poison, in rp, to coat your weapon with?

Age : 25 Posts : 1767

Clayton wrote:: This also raised a question. What if someone gave you the poison, in rp, to coat your weapon with?

That sounds fine logically, but there might be a few restrictions; but that begs another question, if you were to take poison from someone with the knowledge to create it, would you keep it until the end of the topic, or until you've used up the amount you were given?

Age : 29 Posts : 3145

Mm, exactly. You may be given the poison in one topic, but how do the staff keep track of this? If someone has the Specialty, then we can assume that he will create/refill his stock. A person who has been given a poison however, would be much harder to monitor.

Age : 49 Posts : 1036

Well I guess one would assume that any poison would be removed at the end of the thread. Most poisons do have a relatively short "shelf life" that gets even shorter when exposed to air due to accelerated oxidation from free oxygen. Plus trying to store a poisoned weapon is nearly impossible since the process of sheathing or unsheathing the weapon would scrap a good deal of it off.

Subject: Re: Various Stuff. Sun 05 Feb 2012, 2:51 am

Your first argument seems to be forgetting the fact that they apply to GENIN level shinobi, ninja who for the most part are hardly more than academy graduates. The 15 Jutsu limit is only applied to those your character is created with and not how many they are allowed to learn. Once again however, these are Genin we are talking about who, if Canon is being used, rarely have more than 5 Jutsu in total. Also, as Chris mentioned, D rank and C Rank weapons do not differ too much so the limits placed on Genin really aren't too restrictive. The point about the weapon lists being too high ranked is a valid issue however and the weapon lists will be reviewed as soon as possible.

In regards to your issues with the Kaguya clan being too restrictive, you're ignoring the fact that the Kaguya clan is intended to be a Taijutsu and weaponry focused clan with very if any ability in other areas of combat. Giving them a normal degree of proficiency in Ninjutsu or whatever combined with their mastery of Taijutsu would make the Kekkai Genkai overpowered.

Poison restrictions are based on the idea that the items in your character's profile are constantly there and aren't circumstantial. Logically, medical ninja and permanently poisoned puppets are the only two groups who fall into this guideline when it comes to poisons hence the rule. However, you being given poison by one of these groups for use in a thread is completely allowed as far as I know so just do that.

Age : 29 Posts : 1585

Alright everyone. You have convinced me. I will have to agree with your statements. But to make myself clear I never stated Weaponry is required for a Kaguya. It is only my character that is based on Kenjutsu so I am somehow restricted by that fact, which is of course a personal choice and none of you bear any fault. I will take back everything I said about the unfairness of the whole system. Thank you a well lot. I am sorry for your time wasted on my unearthed statements.

Age : 29 Posts : 3145

No no no, that's what we are (some of us at least Razz

) here for.

Subject: Re: Various Stuff. Sun 05 Feb 2012, 10:00 pm

Thank you everyone for your participation in this thread.

It is now Archived.