Using two jutsus at once

Age : 29 Posts : 341

Heyho another question from me:

Is it possible to perform two jutsus at once with SC 'one handed seals'?

(examples: Minato, Naruto using two Rasengans at once.... well that doesn't need handseals but doesn't matter.....)

If it's not possible: May it be possible if the same jutsu is done twice?
or
Would it be possible: When the chakra you use for the second jutsu is chakra drained out of a chakra seal ( a fuuin which contents chakra)

If nothing of this would work please tell me ways which would allow one to use two jutsus at once.

Age : 31 Posts : 18

Not with one set of handseals I believe

Age : 31 Posts : 1836

My thoughts:

I would have to say: no. Just because you're using one hand to form the handseals, doesn't mean you can go ahead and use the other to perform another different series of handseals. Bear in mind that the ninja has to concentrate mentally to use just one technique. Trying to use two techniques at once like you're suggesting would require insane levels of concentration; unrealistic levels, I might add. The presence of handseals makes the jutsu easier to use, but not enough that you can launch two unrelated techniques at once. As no one in the series has yet to be shown using to different jutsu simultaneously (except maybe Kakuzu, but his Kinjusu was a special case), nor has anyone other than Haku been shown to use one-handed seals, we can assume that this feat is beyond anyone's capabilities.

As for using the same jutsu twice, bear in mind that Naruto using two Rasengans at once was a completely different Rasengan jutsu that he himself created: one augmented by his Sennin Mode and thus not your garden-variety jutsu. Nonetheless, I think something like this could be possible. However, I believe in that case, the chakra cost would be equal to two usages of the jutsu. So, for example, if you're setting one hand on fire at a cost of 5CP, then to set both hands on fire, you would have to sacrifice 5CP more. Though, this is only conjecture on my part.

I have no idea what you're asking in the third scenario, so I can't answer that.

And thus ends my rambling. Have a good day.

Age : 49 Posts : 1036

As it stands now for using two jutsu at once - probably not. What we know of the current "rules" for jutsu is that the hand seals are only part of the requirement, with the other part being mentally shaping the energy. I would compare using 2 jutsu at once to trying to read 2 books at the exact same time: not truly possible but someone who was fast enough could make it seem so by

It MIGHT be possible if someone created a SC expressly for that purpose but more than likely it would require both the One-Handed Seals SC as a prerequisite and being jonin/ A-ranked for balance. One must remember that with the ability to use 2 jutsu at once, a single character can perform collaboration jutsu without needing another player or at the minimum a shadow clone.

Regarding the chakra-seal. I would say in terms of storing chakra "off stage", going into a thread with full CP, then pulling out the stored chakra mid-fight - heck no! That is the sort of ability that just asks to be meta-gamed. Someone could easily say they loaded up a dozen or more seals with jutsu before the thread and then use those to get the equivalent of a hundred or more "free" CP.

Storing a jutsu in a seal at the cost of it's CP requirement (plus an amount to use the seal) being deducted from ones own CP pool shouldn't be a problem - that is only changing where the attack comes from. If keeping track of such a seals cost got too annoying, you could always make the seal cost the highest amount for that rank and just use it as a rather inefficient wave to deliver a jutsu. Using that method it might be possible to "use" two jutsu at once but it would be inefficient - you would have to prep the seal beforehand, place it, then activate it while the other jutsu was activated. That being a lot of CP and a lot of concentration (leaving the user wide open) for an attack that gives pretty decent warning beforehand.

Age : 29 Posts : 341

I like nuclears answer the most until now ^^

- I like the idea of making a SC for it, if that would be possible please tell me

- A chakra sealing jutsu which i WILL make will only allow one to store a certain amount of chakra >> I'm not a idiot who metagames and i don't think anyon on this site would do something as unfair as what you stated

- >> Storing a jutsu would need two persons, 1 who makes the jutsu and 1 who seals it, it is stated in Fuuinjutsu stuff that only the handseals are to be made to seal the jutsu, therefore i would need a teammate who 'gives' me a jutsu i could use during a fight...
(this is one of the things i too will use muh in the future when doing group missions >>)

Posts : 363

I would say if you were a one handed specialist, yes, you could theoretically use two jutsus at once. In my opinion, it would be no more overpowered than being a super fast hand seal specialist who can spam multiple jutsus already.

I myself can use multiple jutsus at once and I don't even have either. But then, Shiro does as Shiro loopholes around.

Age : 31 Posts : 1036

Eeerhm no i think i will agree with Ulkira. Just one jutsu takes enough concentration i dont think allowing two jutsu at once will be the ideal thing. I think it will just make everything OP considering youre using two techniques with one hand.

Age : 29 Posts : 341

wtf o.ô
the question was that by only needing to use 1 hand to use 1 jutsu there may be a possibility to use 2 jutsus with 2 hands..... it's not like you use both jutsus with the same hand and handseals...... you totally misunderstood smth. there.

And it's not OP to cast two jutsus at the same time >> it's OP to instantly kill someone with a jutsu, or summoning 1000 clones, it is when you can't do anything against the enemys attack......
but performing two jutsus....... that's not OP that's just a bit mean and couse you trouble, but it wouldn't make you unable to dodge the jutsus.... or just block them with one of your own jutsus.....

And like shiro said, those guys with enhanced hand movements can perform jutsus that fast, it almost doesn't make a diference whether you perform two jutsus at once or just instantly use one after another...
and, too, i don't think it takes that much concentration to use a jutsu, otherwise no Ninja would be able to perform a jutsu while doing all those extreme hard-to-do movements/ moving around at all...........
if it would really be so hard to cast a jutsu, then they wouldn't be doing flips or run around like that.....

and by simply channeling chakra in your brain wouldn't you enhance your concentration and make it simple possible to concentrate on both jutsus >.> may take more Cp to use 2 jutsus at the same time through....

Subject: Re: Using two jutsus at once Fri 30 Mar 2012, 10:04 pm

Hallo, my beautiful creatures.~

First off, this suggestion took a lot of brain power to look through as I could not get over the random spacing and jumping thoughts. Just as a note; please try to collect them before posting as it allows an easier and more accurate response to whatever you are inquiring about.

When it comes to the one-handed seal special characteristic, it has been designed for more convenience for the user, however, it does not make you capable of preforming two jutsus at once. Not only would you have to have sufficient chakra control to be capable of doing so, but it would be more of a specialist-style of technique than a regular one. As of now, it is not possible.

Thanks for the question!

Age : 29 Posts : 341

DDDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

and solving the problem through creation of another SC which is based on one handed seals?

Or just SOME way to make it able to perform two jutsus at once? There has to be a way >> doesn't it TT__TT

Age : 29 Posts : 1797

Shiro wrote:: I myself can use multiple jutsus at once and I don't even have either. But then, Shiro does as Shiro loopholes around.

I hope you're joking..

Posts : 363

Nope.

Age : 31 Posts : 8965

Ulkira wrote:: My thoughts:

I would have to say: no. Just because you're using one hand to form the handseals, doesn't mean you can go ahead and use the other to perform another different series of handseals. Bear in mind that the ninja has to concentrate mentally to use just one technique. Trying to use two techniques at once like you're suggesting would require insane levels of concentration; unrealistic levels, I might add. The presence of handseals makes the jutsu easier to use, but not enough that you can launch two unrelated techniques at once. As no one in the series has yet to be shown using to different jutsu simultaneously (except maybe Kakuzu, but his Kinjusu was a special case), nor has anyone other than Haku been shown to use one-handed seals, we can assume that this feat is beyond anyone's capabilities.

As for using the same jutsu twice, bear in mind that Naruto using two Rasengans at once was a completely different Rasengan jutsu that he himself created: one augmented by his Sennin Mode and thus not your garden-variety jutsu. Nonetheless, I think something like this could be possible. However, I believe in that case, the chakra cost would be equal to two usages of the jutsu. So, for example, if you're setting one hand on fire at a cost of 5CP, then to set both hands on fire, you would have to sacrifice 5CP more. Though, this is only conjecture on my part.

I have no idea what you're asking in the third scenario, so I can't answer that.

And thus ends my rambling. Have a good day.

Age : 29 Posts : 341

does that reply mean i would be able to use the same jutsu twice at once with extra chakra cost adam?

if yes the would be completely satisfieing (<- extreme strange word i hop eoyu know what i mean) for me ^^

Age : 31 Posts : 8965

Probably should have only quoted what I agreed with I suppose, Ulkira's reply was the best one though however no, you cannot use two jutsu at once.

Age : 29 Posts : 341

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damn you all >> so going to somehow still make it possible >>
*goes back to playing Naruto Generations*

well as it seems i cannot make a SC for it or anything your may just lock this topic as solved...

Age : 31 Posts : 8965

I doubt you'll find a way to make it allowable. I'm intentionally avoiding giving my opinion in full on this because I know how I feel about it and enough people have gotten the point across to kind of tell that it isn't something you should be trying.

Why don't you try to do some roleplaying in the meantime, Cross?

Solved.