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I am Legion
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PostSubject: Clan Issue - Three Specialities. Clan Issue - Three Specialities.  EmptyFri 04 May 2012, 10:35 am

So I need to know. I want my character trained in Fuuinjutsu as part of his clan things but I already have Weaponry and Ninjutsu as specialties. Is there a way I can train Fuuin into the character?
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Shiro
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Issue - Three Specialities. Clan Issue - Three Specialities.  EmptyFri 04 May 2012, 10:50 am

Pretty sure that would be a no, although Becky and Adam would know better than I.
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Adam
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Issue - Three Specialities. Clan Issue - Three Specialities.  EmptyFri 04 May 2012, 11:12 am

Caranore has filled me in on your situation.

You have a clan based around using Fuuinjutsu seals to seal Elemental Chakra into Weaponry which in itself is three specialities. It seems you've gotten yourself into an hole you cannot dig out of.

scratch
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Cookie Monster
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Issue - Three Specialities. Clan Issue - Three Specialities.  EmptyFri 04 May 2012, 1:40 pm


Just to clarify as well, the Staff overwhelmingly voted to reject members being able to change their Specialties and Elements once filled and approved.
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~Fox~
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Issue - Three Specialities. Clan Issue - Three Specialities.  EmptyFri 04 May 2012, 2:28 pm

Adam wrote:
You have a clan based around using Fuuinjutsu seals to seal Elemental Chakra into Weaponry which in itself is three specialities. It seems you've gotten yourself into an hole you cannot dig out of.
Indeed. That said, was this issue flagged up to Legion during the clan creation process? I know it's not the staff's responsibility to remind users of this kind of thing (they should be responsible for their own projects being functional), but it kinda damages the 'helpful staff' perception if it was either ignored or missed (the latter being more likely).

Cookie Monster wrote:
Just to clarify as well, the Staff overwhelmingly voted to reject members being able to change their Specialties and Elements once filled and approved.
And to clarify my point, I'm absolutely not saying there should be an exception to this. I'm fully in support of democratic staff decisions. As it is, you guys have soooo much to get through and do a damn fine job. I'm just trying to see it from all sides.

~Soph.

P.S. I know this doesn't really contribute any solutions. Sowweh!
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I am Legion
I am Legion

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PostSubject: Re: Clan Issue - Three Specialities. Clan Issue - Three Specialities.  EmptyFri 04 May 2012, 3:06 pm

Okay well case in point here I need to rework both my character and clan a bit to rectify this little snafu but that will need to happen later. As it is there's only one topic I've actually rp'ed in and that is in and of itself under review for rules being broken so really it's as if this character is freshly approved. Basically what I'm rambling on about sleepily is that this would be like a staff member catching a mistake another mod or admin missed and de-approving my character.
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Chris
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Issue - Three Specialities. Clan Issue - Three Specialities.  EmptyFri 04 May 2012, 6:25 pm

Just saying that if you allow Legion to change his speciality, everyone will be able to use this case a la Court. D: Then again, you will look like helpful, benevolant leaders - we don't want the members to think that. They'll ask for favours and demand further kindness and consideration. And crazy stuff like that...

So I say we outright kill him to make an example! o.o

On a more helpful note, you can't really have a Clan that makes use of three Specialties in the first place. If that has been done, it would be a good idea to edit it so that it only makes use of two aaaand in this special, golden (rainbow-coated) example of chivalry and kindness, have Legion's character get the two correct specialties.
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Caranore
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Issue - Three Specialities. Clan Issue - Three Specialities.  EmptyFri 04 May 2012, 7:37 pm

The clans only weaponry because it is used in conjunction with weapons. It could be used in comnjunction with tai as well, he just didnt think to put that in. The two actually specs from the clan are nin and fuuin (unless he reworks the entire clan) hes just... special
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Enzo
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Issue - Three Specialities. Clan Issue - Three Specialities.  EmptyFri 04 May 2012, 11:14 pm

After re-reading the clan; you don't need Fuuinjutsu at all. You may have messed up on how you phrased the clan; but since there are no complications with your character everything is fine. From what it looks like; you just want to gain Fuuinjutsu so that you can use more seals alongside your current one. Sorry; but you picked the path for your character when applying for it. We cannot simply let you switch specialties for such a personally-beneficial reason.
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I am Legion
I am Legion

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PostSubject: Re: Clan Issue - Three Specialities. Clan Issue - Three Specialities.  EmptySat 05 May 2012, 6:44 am

Okay one it's not solely for my character's benefit it's mainly due to an error made in the creation and if need be I will speak with Adam and Becky on this matter but frankly if it had been noticed it should have been fixed outright. If I really have to kill my character off to rework the clan then sobeit but frankly I'll be pissed off beyond belief that I'll have to spend another month in approval limbo waiting for a mod or admin to actually notice when I bump a topic.

*Edit* Sorry if this comes off as snarky but I'm sleep deprived and nursing a migraine at the moment.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Issue - Three Specialities. Clan Issue - Three Specialities.  EmptySat 05 May 2012, 8:52 am

I am Legion wrote:
Okay one it's not solely for my character's benefit it's mainly due to an error made in the creation and if need be I will speak with Adam and Becky on this matter but frankly if it had been noticed it should have been fixed outright. If I really have to kill my character off to rework the clan then sobeit but frankly I'll be pissed off beyond belief that I'll have to spend another month in approval limbo waiting for a mod or admin to actually notice when I bump a topic.

Let me explain a few things to you in the best way I can...

1.) We cannot notice something wrong with a clan you wrote other than expanding on what you give us, and helping to balance things out. If you have managed to incorrectly fill out your clan template, that is on you. We cannot suggest how to make your clan, we are simply here to check that it meets all of the forum's standards.

2.) You should not have to kill off your character for any reason, just play the one you have. Sometimes you'll find that mistakes can be much more entertaining once you pass the initial frustration.

3.) Sorry about the wait in 'approval limbo' but there have been many staffing changes occurring for a while now as well as keeping things current and interesting for people around the sight. I'm not sure if you had PM'd a mod, but I think that would have been a better choice than sitting around and getting flustered.


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PostSubject: Re: Clan Issue - Three Specialities. Clan Issue - Three Specialities.  EmptySat 05 May 2012, 9:11 am

Okay I'm going to say this and then wash my hands of this topic. I needed Fuuin on my character to begin with and as it stands my setup as a whole will need to be altered. It frankly needs to happen because of what I how the setup for the character would have worked.

Second, I was not being hostile just had mental problems that stem from having a migraine while trying to deal with all of this nonsense.

Third I don't blame the staff for missing this I should have noticed it as well a while back so that's a group messup that needs to be fixed soon.

And fourth, no I didn't pm a mod because frankly I know how sites like these work, I know how busy people are and I had time to spare to wait. I spared them from me having to pm someone multiple times to look over something that probably had little importance for the site to begin with and thusly, fell to the bottom of the rung in the face of staffing and site changes.

In conclusion I'll be speaking with Adam and/or Becky in the next hour to day about this and working something out because right now my character shouldn't function in the way that he is. I put weaponry on him in the first place to be able to carry and use both staves and swords and forgot that my clan needed my character to have Fuuin thrown in there for the sake of the seals. Like I said I have to rework things so they make sense because right now, they don't. Regardless of what other people may say, I alone know how my character functions and how it works and right now after having this pointed out to me I'm realizing it shouldn't be working and I'm actually making an endeavor to correct this problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Issue - Three Specialities. Clan Issue - Three Specialities.  EmptySat 16 Jun 2012, 10:43 am

Character's since been archived and the clan will follow.

Solved.
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