Sharingan

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An issue came up with TopKite and I over the Sharingan. Specifically, in canon basis, the Sharingan's ability to see chakra.

In the actual source material, the first tomoe Sharingan has never ever been shown to be able to see chakra flow. Only the second and third Tomoe Sharingans are suggested to be able to see chakra flow, and even then, it is specified as not being to the same level as the Byakugan. (Which, really, would defeat the point of people wanting to play a Hyuuga if an Uchiha can do everything they can.)

This site lists the first tomoe Sharingan as being able to see chakra flow. I believe this to be an inaccuracy that should be corrected. I also think the specifics of what it can see should be noted. For example, TopKite writes that he's able to see every fluctuation in an individuals chakra, be able to tell whenever they use a jutsu, and how they mold it. This, I think, at the very least with the first tomoe even if it is allowed to see chakra flow on this site, is too much

I also want to point out that the Byakugan, which is supposed to be far better as the detection of chakra, has never been shown to note specifically when people are about to use jutsus, but instead typically only after they are used.

I do not at all scold TopKite for this, as he is new to RPing and is working with confusing material.

Age : 29 Posts : 4301

The whole "it's like that in the show, why isn't it like that here?" argument is invalid right now, considering we took away the whole Prediction ability of the three tomoe, as well as not allowing the Mangekyõ Sharingan, you really cannot bring that argument into here.

Now as for the clarification, the Sharingan is able to see the flow of chakra from another person. They're able to tell when someone is under a genjutsu, they're able to place colour to chakra and they would certainly be able to tell when someone is about to attack, considering the fact that the Sharingan wielder would see a person concentrating a large amount of chakra into one area.

The Sharingan and the Byakugan greatly differ, the Sharingan doesn't have the ability to see from incredible distances and it also isn't able to view the flow of chakra or another person's chakra network as precise as the Byakugan can. They're able to see the Tenketsu points on another's body, tiny little points which no other person would be able to see. The Sharingan and it's abilities are fine.

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And I believe that's too much, given its abilities already to see opponents at high speed movements, react according to them, as well as their copying ability and genjutsu piercing sight. This is especially so when considering that this is the First Tomoe Sharingan.

As to following the show, while I agree that at some points, when something is too abuseable in a forum, deserves to be changed, I don't think we should make the Sharingan better than it is because we can, especially when it's the freaking first Tomoe.

Age : 35 Posts : 1492

Quote :: The first stage of the Sharingan will present the user with a single tomoe in each eye, thus allowing them to access the abilities that the first stage offers. The full list of abilities that the first stage can provide are as followed; being able to see the flow of external and internal chakra and being able to view the world in a slower motion.

The second stage of the Sharingan will present the user with two tomoes in each eye, thus allowing them to access the abilities that the second stage offers. The full list of abilities that the second stage can provide are as followed; being able to see the flow of external and internal chakra, being able to view the world in a slower motion, being able to read a person's movement and being able to mimic said movement.

First doesnt allow all that.

Age : 29 Posts : 4301

As Caranore has put it, the First Tomoe doesn't allow everything you've mentioned. They are only able to see at high speeds and view the flow of chakra whether external or internal. On top of this, a person is only able to react to the high speed movement if they have the capability to do so, just because you can see something moving at high speeds doesn't mean you're instantly able to dodge it. The First Tomoe cannot copy movement or techniques from their opponents, so I don't know where you're getting that from. Now to clarify my point, the First Tomoe is not at all overpowered, I'm assuming you're just mad at the fact Kite is able to counter your Genjutsu techniques which results in a bias view, thus nothing needs to be changed about it.

Age : 29 Posts : 4301

Due to the lack of response, I'm assuming this is...

Solved.