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Chris
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PostSubject: Chakra Control Chakra Control EmptyFri 27 Jul 2012, 8:20 pm

I know that we have a bit of a problem with how op the SC Advanced Chakra Control is, so this is my suggestion as to how we can nerf it successfully.

Basically rather than have it deduce up to 12 Chakra from all Rank techniques, it would be better to have it reduce certain amounts from certain-ranked jutsu. An example of this would be:

All E Rank Jutsu costs are reduced by 1
All D Rank Jutsu costs are reduced by 2.
All C Rank Jutsu costs are reduced by 4.
All B Rank Jutsu costs are reduced by 5.
All A Rank Jutsu costs are reduced by 7.
All S Rank Jutsu costs are reduced by 9.

You would get access to each 'level' by upgrading the SC rank accordingly.

Thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: Chakra Control Chakra Control EmptyFri 27 Jul 2012, 8:26 pm

Quote :
Name: Advanced Chakra Control.
Rank: D-S.
Type: Chakra Based.
Physical Requirements: Must specialize in Medical Ninjutsu or Genjutsu, and must not have an Increased Chakra Capacity or Bijuu.
Training Requirements: 700.
Description: An exceptional attribution that one is innately born with and further invokes during the course of their training. Chakra Control is key to preserving your stamina which will increase your vitality and enable you to use techniques to it's fullest capacity. It is essential for nearly all specialties of Ninjutsu but is heavily coveted in the areas of Medical Ninjutsu and Genjutsu which require good chakra in order to perform their techniques proficiently. Those with Advanced Chakra Control however are able to take it to the next step and preserve more noticeable chakra from their standard pool. Depending on the rank of the technique, a small quantity of chakra is preserved within the body when executed the Jutsu, which ultimately lowers the cost of your techniques. Furthermore because your Chakra Control is so flawless and exceptional, your Surface Walking and Water Walking techniques no longer cost chakra because you can now perform them effortlessly. This technique does not lower the cost chakra points going towards maintaining a jutsu, only creating them.
D - 1 cp reduced.
C - 2 cp reduced.
B - 4 cp reduced.
A - 8 cp reduced.
S - 12 cp reduced.

I thought it already worked like that, Chris scratch
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Chris
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PostSubject: Re: Chakra Control Chakra Control EmptyFri 27 Jul 2012, 8:30 pm

Nope. With the original Chakra Control, I can take away 12 Chakra from a D rank and can take away 12 Chakra from an S rank. It doesn't discriminate between the original rank of the jutsu, to the point where some techniques are almost free.

With my version, I can only take 2 from a D rank, but can take 9 from an S Rank. In other words, rather than make some jutsu almost-free, the SC reduces the cost reasonably and differently for each rank.
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NuclearTreerat
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PostSubject: Re: Chakra Control Chakra Control EmptyFri 27 Jul 2012, 8:41 pm

That is how I thought it worked too Enzo. Though now that I look at it, Chris's idea could also fit. A definite answer, changing the "D-S" under Rank to a set letter (C, B, etc) and a rewording of the description might be in order here.

Oh and is there any chance of it's restrictions being somewhat lifted? As it already locks a character out of the only two ways to increase one's CP allotment, it seems rather harsh to also say that you must also specialize in ijutsu or genjutsu when there is at least one other specialty where chakra control could be said to be just as useful.


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PostSubject: Re: Chakra Control Chakra Control EmptyFri 27 Jul 2012, 9:28 pm

Chris, read Enzo's quote. It clearly mentions that the amount of chakra deducted from the cost is dependent on the rank of the technique.

Toshiro makes a good point that the removal of the D-S requirement and replacing it with a single rank could help clear up this confusion.

I also agree that the limitations on people who have chakra capacity should be able to have chakra control as well. Although logically it would be harder for them so perhaps the word limit would have to be increased or the amount deducted would be lessened.
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PostSubject: Re: Chakra Control Chakra Control EmptyFri 27 Jul 2012, 9:57 pm

Mugen Kousen wrote:
I also agree that the limitations on people who have chakra capacity should be able to have chakra control as well. Although logically it would be harder for them so perhaps the word limit would have to be increased or the amount deducted would be lessened.

I was thinking more along the lines of removing the requirement for Genjutsu or Medical Ninjutsu specialization actually. While one can (generally) assume that those two areas require better chakra control, any technique where excess chakra doesn't yield better results would also benefit from using only the exact amount of chakra required.

I would have serious issues allowing someone to have the increased CP pool from an SC or tailed beast while also also allowing them to use it more efficiently. At that point the advantage of having both could reach the point where people take medical ninjutsu or genjutsu simply to get this SC because without it and the extra CP they are at a massive disadvantage. Good RPing can offset some things, but not everything.
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PostSubject: Re: Chakra Control Chakra Control EmptyFri 27 Jul 2012, 11:11 pm

NuclearTreerat wrote:
Mugen Kousen wrote:
I also agree that the limitations on people who have chakra capacity should be able to have chakra control as well. Although logically it would be harder for them so perhaps the word limit would have to be increased or the amount deducted would be lessened.

I was thinking more along the lines of removing the requirement for Genjutsu or Medical Ninjutsu specialization actually. While one can (generally) assume that those two areas require better chakra control, any technique where excess chakra doesn't yield better results would also benefit from using only the exact amount of chakra required.

I would have serious issues allowing someone to have the increased CP pool from an SC or tailed beast while also also allowing them to use it more efficiently. At that point the advantage of having both could reach the point where people take medical ninjutsu or genjutsu simply to get this SC because without it and the extra CP they are at a massive disadvantage. Good RPing can offset some things, but not everything.
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Chris
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PostSubject: Re: Chakra Control Chakra Control EmptySat 28 Jul 2012, 1:13 am

If Enzo is correct then in that case, the D-S ranking is horribly explained.
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PostSubject: Re: Chakra Control Chakra Control EmptyWed 05 Sep 2012, 12:36 am

I am right, obviously. I am always right. Why dare even question my authority anymore? You know you'll be wrong.


P.S. The Advanced Chakra Control SC will be updated with the new SC's.

Solved.
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