Satake Clan [Complete]

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Clan Name: Satake [Sah - tar - kay].

Clan Location: Tsuki no Kuni [Moon Country].

Clan Traits: Members tend to have paler colours of hair - blond and silver being the most common. Eye colour is generally blue, but there have been exceptions.

Kekkei Genkai: Idaten [God of Purity]. The mysterious bloodline ability of the Satake clan, the name Idaten was applied by the elder clansmen, and is far from an accurate description of the effects it induces. Simply put, this Kekkei Genkai nullifies any genetically carried abilities in those in relatively close proximity to a clan member. Describing and explaining this in scientific terms is far more complicated, however. The clan member's body naturally exudes a sub-normal force - akin to bioelectricity - to a measurable area around them. Though harmless and completely undetectable by human (and other organic) means, it has a significant effect on anyone within the area. The strangest characteristic of this energy being constantly expelled from the clan member is that it carries its own genetic code. This is thought to have developed in a symbiotic relationship with the clan member. In that from birth, the 'force' begins to attune itself with the user's innermost workings (i.e. their genetics), and part of the information that it carries is a sort of 'carbon copy' of the clansmen's DNA. However, this naturally-occurring energy isn't totally analagous to the user's genetics, and quickly develops its own individual coding based on its host's.

This particular trait of the exuded force helps explain the most unusual effect it has on those within its range. The energy subtly interrupts the genetic coding of those nearby by imprinting its own code onto that of another individual, though not significantly enough to physically alter the form of any individual. Rather, the miniscule fluctuation in the genetic coding is much like having a chromosonal disorder, only far less mentally and physically detrimental to a subject. Instead of affecting the fundamental characteristics passed on in the hereditary DNA, the energy blocks any extraneous abilities found in the genes - bloodline abilities and augmentations. Though many bloodline abilities utilize the chakra system or another medium to work through, the ability itself comes from an inherent, hereditary trait which can ONLY be carried through the genetics of the clan member. Thus, no bloodline is exempt from being affected by the Idaten (though some non-genetic Kekkei Genkai can be). While this force has little noticeable effect on a subject, the nullifying ability becomes present when a subject tries to access these hereditary characteristics and finds their body unable to comply. Put simply, their bodies cannot access their inherent abilities. This does not remove a Kekkei Genkai from a target, simply negates it.

However, the Idaten cannot interrupt physical shape and form. In more comprehensive terms, anything that would structurally disable the subject is simply 'beyond' the effects of the Idaten, and cannot be changed. For example, if a person is considerably muscular (even by hereditary means), they would not lose this muscle when exposed to the Idaten. Certain jutsu that are exclusive to a clan bloodline but not a genetically coded ability are unaffected, because they are merely secret techniques. For example, an Akimichi clan member can still use techniques whilst affected by the Idaten, but a Nara clan member (who uses a special type of bloodline-influenced chakra) cannot. Secondary elements, such as Ice, require a bloodline ability to be formed and thus are negated; whereas specialization in a certain element tends not to be hereditary and therefore unaffected. Kekkei Genkai that have been transferred from one ninja to another can only be genetically-carried abilities, as secret jutsu are imparted knowledge and not physical traits. Thus, transplanted bloodline abilities are always affected by the Idaten.

The effect has a short range, in that anyone within fifty metres of the user become unable to utilize any form of bloodline ability - including special chakra bloodlines such as that of the Nara clan, advanced elements such as Senju's Mokuton [Wood Release] or hereditary Doujutsu, such as the Uchiha's Sharingan. Beyond the 50 metre distance, their abilities can be accessed as normal. A passive ability that fortunately does not drain chakra, the Idaten is permanently active, although it can be deactivated for a short while if the clan member can perform the appropriate technique.

No techniques are flawless however, and the Idaten has a number of drawbacks. Primarily, it is permanently active and thus can, regardless of will, affect allies too. It has limited range, which can only be extended by meditation and chakra. There are a number of clan abilities and techniques that are unaffected by the Idaten. More obscure drawbacks include the clan members' inability to assimilate any form of bloodline ability (no Sharingan transplants, for example). Also, it is important to note that the Idaten does not waste a subject's chakra. Should someone attempt a bloodline technique within its range, the technique would fail but no chakra would be used or wasted by the attempt.

Secret Clan Jutsu:

Name: Idaten [God of Purity]
Rank: -.
Type: Bloodline; Ninjutsu.
Element: None.
Description: A permanently active ability that fortunately does not drain chakra, the Idaten nullifies any genetically carried abilities in those in relatively close proximity to a clan member. The intricacies of this process have yet to be discovered, but it is generally assumed that this bloodline ability causes an interference in the recognition of cellular coding of others. Put simply, their bodies cannot access their inherent abilities. This does not remove a Kekkei Genkai from a target, simply negates it. The effect has a short range, in that anyone within fifty metres of the user become unable to utilize any form of bloodline ability. Beyond that distance, their abilities can be accessed as normal.

Name: Taikyo no Jutsu [Recession Skill]
Rank: D.
Type: Ninjutsu.
Element: None.
Description: Though the process of restricting their otherwise permanently active Idaten bloodline ability is simple enough, it does take a Satake clan member a few moments of uninterrupted meditation to perform. Taking a meditative stance with their eyes closed and palms open, the clan member must focus of internalizing their Idaten ability. After five seconds, the range has been reduced to 25 metres. After the full ten seconds, the ability is restricted to within 1 metre of the user. This restriction will not last for more than one hour [twenty posts].

Name: Kakudai no Jutsu [Magnification Skill]
Rank: D.
Type: Ninjutsu.
Element: None.
Description: Much like the Taikyo no Jutsu, which seeks to alter the range of the clan member's Idaten to just 1 metre, the Kakudai no Jutsu uses a similar meditative method to increase the range. Taking a meditative stance with their eyes closed and palms open, the clan member must focus of internalizing their Idaten ability. After five seconds, the range has been increased to 75 metres. After the full ten seconds, the ability is magnified to reach up to 100 metres from the user. This amplification will not last for more than one hour [twenty posts].

Name: Rikou no Jutsu [Discharge Skill]
Rank: D.
Type: Ninjutsu.
Element: None.
Description: Should a clan member need to release the restriction or augmentation placed upon their Idaten ability by the Taikyo no Jutsu or Kakudai no Jutsu, they can perform this technique. A short but complex set of seals releases the first binding, which either expands the range of the Idaten to 25 metres or reduces it to 75 metres, depending on which range affecting technique was used. Another, shorter and simpler set of seals fully releases the Idaten once more, returning it to the natural range of 50 metres. This techique can causes headaches amongst less-experienced clan members, as the pent up ability causes a rush of energy to flood the user's body, something that can only be overcome with years of practice.

History:

The Satake clan is not particularly well-known. Originally hailing from Tetsu no Kuni [Iron Country], they sought pastures anew when the general population of Tetsu no Kuni decreed their abilities too closely-related to shinobi abilities - despite their bloodline ability that negated other Kekkei Genkai. The clan members journeyed for many weeks, eventually taking a small set of ships to the generally peaceful Getsugakure no Sato [Village Hidden Under The Moon] in Tsuki no Kuni [Moon Country]. This country, famed for being a popular holiday location, allowed them to exist in peace and have little to do with the shinobi world. The few ninja they did come into contact with had abhorred their bloodline ability and had no qualms in voicing their opinions. As such, the small Satake clan maintained a low profile existence on the borders of the shinobi world.

Though some have been called back to Tetsu no Kuni to act as mediators when shinobi meetings have been called, not one single member of the Satake clan has permanently left his or her hometown to seek their future in the wider world (where ninja are rife). However, it is only a matter of time. Though the clan elders are careful to keep the population of the Satake people to a controlled number, there are those even amongst this small group that seek to break away from the traditions imposed upon them. The fact that the clan name and bloodline is known by so very few outside of Getsugakure no Sato will undoubtedly serve these 'entrepreneurs' in good stead, but the village elders are constantly worried about the secrets that the shinobi world will learn should too many leave the confines of Tsuki no Kuni.

Clan Details: Closed, for now.

Age : 35 Posts : 1492

Just to clarify. This negates all bloodlines, friend as foe correct? Based on the radius of the description you gave, it seems to be an all or nothing passive technique?

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Correct.

Age : 35 Posts : 1492

Alright. Approved, however I will be watching your character and the like just to be safe.

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Quote :: Kekkei Genkai: Idaten [God of Purity]. The mysterious bloodline ability of the Satake clan, the name Idaten was applied by the elder clansmen, and is far from an accurate description of the effects it induces. In simplistic terms, this Kekkei Genkai nullifies any genetically carried abilities in those in relatively close proximity to a clan member. The intricacies of this process have yet to be discovered, but it is generally assumed that this bloodline ability causes an interference in the recognition of cellular coding of others. Put simply, their bodies cannot access their inherent abilities. This does not remove a Kekkei Genkai from a target, simply negates it.

The effect has a short range, in that anyone within fifty metres of the user become unable to utilize any form of bloodline ability - including special chakra bloodlines such as that of the Nara & Yamanaka clans, inherent control 'bond' types such as those demonstrated by the Aburame & Inuzuka clans, or advanced elements such as Wood or Ice. Beyond the 50 metre distance, their abilities can be accessed as normal. A passive ability that fortunately does not drain chakra, the Idaten is permanently active, although it can be deactivated for a short while if the clan member can perform the appropriate technique.

Nein, unapproved. That doesn't make any sense at all, and you even say it hasn't been discovered. Just because they don't know IC doesn't mean you don't know OOC, and interfering with cellular coding doesn't make any sense for achieving that effect, especially since not every Kekkei Genkai relies solely on the individuals blood to achieve its effect, many use the chakra system. So you couldn't feasibly hinder every Kekkei Genkai with this.

Also, how could your ability be able to hinder each and every bloodline ability with no period of time to adjust or even figure out how it works? Thats not logically, you couldn't possibly know how to effect something that you've never encountered before and just because its your own Kekkei Genkai ability doesn't mean it knows any better than the user of it. This would need to be individually designed to counter specific bloodlines and it would have to switch from bloodline to bloodline to effect other ones, and you would have to have encountered that blood line before hand.

You don't even explain what it is that is suppressing their blood, chakra I would assume, and then you go on to say it can suppress things like advanced elements (which are chakra based) and special conditions like the Aburame (which their is no possible way to effect, they don't even HAVE a bloodline ability to hinder, those are special jutsu.) You can't suppress certain things, and you have to specify this very precisely because two paragraphs, most of which are examples, isn't precise enough.

There should be a period of time to adjust to a new Kekkei Genkai before you can suppress it, excluding ones you've already encountered before, and you have to exclude those that are based on chakra since you're targeting the blood. You can hinder effects from the blood, but not from other sources, and some effects are so innate that you couldn't possibly suppress them, (Such as Z's Kaiku clan which is effectively their race, you can't stop something from being what it is) and you didn't mention Doujutsu either which is not part of the bloodline ability of a clan, though the two are closely related. Stopping the genetic code (which doesn't make much sense, and will need more details, how are you doing it? with what? etc.) in the blood wouldn't do a thing to the eyes. And what about transplanted Kekkei Genkai or Doujutsu?

Basically, this needs way more definition, I'll agree with others the concept, as far as in game terms, is fine, it needs way more definition and it needs to be logical. With this Kekkei Genkai, (you never mentioned whether it hinders your own or not, despite whether or not this is assumed it should be stated) there are some people you could actually KILL just by being around them. If someone was using their KKG to keep them alive, like Jiongu Threads, then they would fall apart just by being around you, their hearts wouldn't work, and they would die. I think you can see why this needs a far better explanation, and I know you're capable of better than this little two paragraph thing. I posted more about it right now, come on...

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Quote :: Nein, unapproved. That doesn't make any sense at all, and you even say it hasn't been discovered. Just because they don't know IC doesn't mean you don't know OOC, and interfering with cellular coding doesn't make any sense for achieving that effect, especially since not every Kekkei Genkai relies solely on the individuals blood to achieve its effect, many use the chakra system. So you couldn't feasibly hinder every Kekkei Genkai with this.

Also, how could your ability be able to hinder each and every bloodline ability with no period of time to adjust or even figure out how it works? Thats not logically, you couldn't possibly know how to effect something that you've never encountered before and just because its your own Kekkei Genkai ability doesn't mean it knows any better than the user of it. This would need to be individually designed to counter specific bloodlines and it would have to switch from bloodline to bloodline to effect other ones, and you would have to have encountered that blood line before hand.

You don't even explain what it is that is suppressing their blood, chakra I would assume, and then you go on to say it can suppress things like advanced elements (which are chakra based) and special conditions like the Aburame (which their is no possible way to effect, they don't even HAVE a bloodline ability to hinder, those are special jutsu.) You can't suppress certain things, and you have to specify this very precisely because two paragraphs, most of which are examples, isn't precise enough.

There should be a period of time to adjust to a new Kekkei Genkai before you can suppress it, excluding ones you've already encountered before, and you have to exclude those that are based on chakra since you're targeting the blood. You can hinder effects from the blood, but not from other sources, and some effects are so innate that you couldn't possibly suppress them, (Such as Z's Kaiku clan which is effectively their race, you can't stop something from being what it is) and you didn't mention Doujutsu either which is not part of the bloodline ability of a clan, though the two are closely related. Stopping the genetic code (which doesn't make much sense, and will need more details, how are you doing it? with what? etc.) in the blood wouldn't do a thing to the eyes. And what about transplanted Kekkei Genkai or Doujutsu?

Basically, this needs way more definition, I'll agree with others the concept, as far as in game terms, is fine, it needs way more definition and it needs to be logical. With this Kekkei Genkai, (you never mentioned whether it hinders your own or not, despite whether or not this is assumed it should be stated) there are some people you could actually KILL just by being around them. If someone was using their KKG to keep them alive, like Jiongu Threads, then they would fall apart just by being around you, their hearts wouldn't work, and they would die. I think you can see why this needs a far better explanation, and I know you're capable of better than this little two paragraph thing. I posted more about it right now, come on...

I'm working on a much more comprehensive explanation, and you're right - I haven't nearly done myself justice with this thus far. However, I must point out that whatever medium is used for a bloodline ability, it itself comes from an inherent, hereditary trait which can ONLY be carried through the genetics of the clan member. Thus, no bloodline ability is exempt - although some Kekkei Genkai (secret jutsu and the like) can be. However, in place of this, I'll be adding the restriction that some hereditary traits are simply 'beyond' the effects of the Idaten. The Kaiku clan, for example, would be unable to activate any of their abilities, but their inherent physical traits (hardened skin, muscle capacity) would remain.

Kekkei Genkai: Idaten [God of Purity]. The mysterious bloodline ability of the Satake clan, the name Idaten was applied by the elder clansmen, and is far from an accurate description of the effects it induces. Simply put, this Kekkei Genkai nullifies any genetically carried abilities in those in relatively close proximity to a clan member. Describing and explaining this in scientific terms is far more complicated, however. The clan member's body naturally exudes a sub-normal force - akin to bioelectricity - to a measurable area around them. Though harmless and completely undetectable by human (and other organic) means, it has a significant effect on anyone within the area. The strangest characteristic of this energy being constantly expelled from the clan member is that it carries its own genetic code. This is thought to have developed in a symbiotic relationship with the clan member. In that from birth, the 'force' begins to attune itself with the user's innermost workings (i.e. their genetics), and part of the information that it carries is a sort of 'carbon copy' of the clansmen's DNA. However, this naturally-occurring energy isn't totally analagous to the user's genetics, and quickly develops its own individual coding based on its host's.

This particular trait of the exuded force helps explain the most unusual effect it has on those within its range. The energy subtly interrupts the genetic coding of those nearby by imprinting its own code onto that of another individual, though not significantly enough to physically alter the form of any individual. Rather, the miniscule fluctuation in the genetic coding is much like having a chromosonal disorder, only far less mentally and physically detrimental to a subject. Instead of affecting the fundamental characteristics passed on in the hereditary DNA, the energy blocks any extraneous abilities found in the genes - bloodline abilities and augmentations. Though many bloodline abilities utilize the chakra system or another medium to work through, the ability itself comes from an inherent, hereditary trait which can ONLY be carried through the genetics of the clan member. Thus, no bloodline is exempt from being affected by the Idaten (though some non-genetic Kekkei Genkai can be). While this force has little noticeable effect on a subject, the nullifying ability becomes present when a subject tries to access these hereditary characteristics and finds their body unable to comply. Put simply, their bodies cannot access their inherent abilities. This does not remove a Kekkei Genkai from a target, simply negates it.

However, the Idaten cannot interrupt physical shape and form. In more comprehensive terms, anything that would structurally disable the subject is simply 'beyond' the effects of the Idaten, and cannot be changed. For example, if a person is considerably muscular (even by hereditary means), they would not lose this muscle when exposed to the Idaten. Or if a hereditary bloodline is biologically sustaining the life of the individual, it will remain unaffected. Certain jutsu that are exclusive to a clan bloodline but not a genetically coded ability are unaffected, because they are merely secret techniques. For example, an Akimichi clan member can still use techniques whilst affected by the Idaten, but a Nara clan member (who uses a special type of bloodline-influenced chakra) cannot. Secondary elements, such as Ice, require a bloodline ability to be formed and thus are negated; whereas specialization in a certain element tends not to be hereditary and therefore unaffected. Kekkei Genkai that have been transferred from one ninja to another can only be genetically-carried abilities, as secret jutsu are imparted knowledge and not physical traits. Thus, transplanted bloodline abilities are always affected by the Idaten.

The effect has a short range, in that anyone within fifty metres of the user become unable to utilize any form of bloodline ability - including special chakra bloodlines such as that of the Nara clan, advanced elements such as Senju's Mokuton [Wood Release] or hereditary Doujutsu, such as the Uchiha's Sharingan. Beyond the 50 metre distance, their abilities can be accessed as normal. A passive ability that fortunately does not drain chakra, the Idaten is permanently active, although it can be deactivated for a short while if the clan member can perform the appropriate technique.

Age : 35 Posts : 1113

Hopefully fixed this. A much more comprehensive (and scientifically sound, to a degree) explanation has been provided.

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You haven't expressed, in post amounts, or other time amounts, how long it takes to adjust and I don't assume it would be fast enough to be in a single post due to the whole 'genetic reconstruction' thing. Also, if they have more than one Kekkei Genkai (as in transplants) then can the chakra still encompass both? Is their an increased time? Does it only effect one?

I'd also like a note on necessity to live, some clans rely on their bloodline abilities to keep them alive. Though its rare, and it may not even yet be a concept used on the forum, it will come up at some point so details for that would be nice. I don't think people would keen to just die from being around you, so in those rare cases it'd be best to note something (i'd recommend stating that the afflicted parties life, being held together by their blood, is able to resist the effects to an extent and suffer loss of their abilities excluding necessities to live.)

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Quote :: In more comprehensive terms, anything that would structurally disable the subject is simply 'beyond' the effects of the Idaten, and cannot be changed. For example, if a person is considerably muscular (even by hereditary means), they would not lose this muscle when exposed to the Idaten. Certain jutsu that are exclusive to a clan bloodline but not a genetically coded ability are unaffected, because they are merely secret techniques. For example, an Akimichi clan member can still use techniques whilst affected by the Idaten, but a Nara clan member (who uses a special type of bloodline-influenced chakra) cannot

Im pretty sure that answers your question about the living/dying thing hage.

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Caranore wrote:

Quote :: In more comprehensive terms, anything that would structurally disable the subject is simply 'beyond' the effects of the Idaten, and cannot be changed. For example, if a person is considerably muscular (even by hereditary means), they would not lose this muscle when exposed to the Idaten. Certain jutsu that are exclusive to a clan bloodline but not a genetically coded ability are unaffected, because they are merely secret techniques. For example, an Akimichi clan member can still use techniques whilst affected by the Idaten, but a Nara clan member (who uses a special type of bloodline-influenced chakra) cannot

Im pretty sure that answers your question about the living/dying thing hage.

Thats more of a reference of the abilities limits, but that isn't a direct reference to its inability to kill should such a situation arise. I'm looking for a more straight-forward deal, I cant really think of any examples besides Kakuzu who used his threads to keep himself together, if that was hindered he would fall apart and die, and his hearts, being part of this, would also die, so he'd collapse into pieces and be done for. Even if its not 'structurally disabled' the hearts being killed off by this effect would be lethal and thats not structural in any way.

Age : 35 Posts : 1113

Yeah, I put that in particularly to deal with the living/dying thing. But I'll edit to make it clearer.

Quote :: However, the Idaten cannot interrupt physical shape and form. In more comprehensive terms, anything that would structurally disable the subject is simply 'beyond' the effects of the Idaten, and cannot be changed. For example, if a person is considerably muscular (even by hereditary means), they would not lose this muscle when exposed to the Idaten. Or if a hereditary bloodline is biologically sustaining the life of the individual, it will remain unaffected.

As for the adjustion, I actually intend it to work on all hereditary Kekkei Genkai immediately. This isn't illogical however, and I'll explain - an ability passed on through genetics will always be affected in the same way by the Idaten, as the chromosonal make up of human beings and the way in which these are passed on is universal amongst our species. Unless there is an explicit difference in the manner in which genes are passed on (this require require an advanced evolution from current human beings), it will affect genetic abilities in the same way. Does that make sense?

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No, not really, you're ability effectively shoves out the Kekkei Genkai coding and replaces it with itself. Doing that would mean you would have to specifically target that coding, or you would have to remove the whole genetic code and replace it with your own. This isn't the sort of thing that I believe could happen in an instant, this is at a sub-cellular level, theres just no way you could achieve that kind of effect that quickly. Imagine it as a virus, even if they're covered in a cloud of it (or an aura as you have it) it still doesn't take hold instantly, it has to reach its target cells, and that takes time. In your case, its every cell, which means it would take even more time because theres more things you have to target.

As you have it, you're effectively saying that a poison (its not a poison, but it helps for comparison effects) that targets an opponent at a sub-cellular level can take effect instantly, and thats not how the body works. Also, since its only in a range, you'd have to either have residual cells in the body or you'd have to reapply it. If it takes time to establish, as I believe it should, you'd be free to give it time to wear off as well, and I find that much more believable.

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The problem alluding it to a poison is that the poison will only take time to affect the individual because it has to transmit to the blood after being applied. The Idaten however, an energy that is tuned to genetic coding already, penetrates the body immediately at molecular level. So it's not quite as you stated - shoving out the KKG and replacing it with itself - rather, it splices itself into the established DNA in order to interfere with it. This is a far less refined method, which is why it is unable to target anything that would structurally disable a subject. If, as you say, it was that accurate in replacing coding, it should be able to pretty much nullify all genetic abnormalities and simply turn the person to their regular, common hominid self (so take the Kaiku clansmen, for example, they'd become totally human under an effect that precise and effective). If it has to be as precise as you say, I cannot provide a particular reason for it not to be able to do this.

Moreover, being already attuned to the form and structure of DNA, it shouldn't take too long to splice itself onto another's - having a number of years to accumulate this skill as it works symbiotically with the clan member. At most, I could see it starting to take hold at the beginning of a post, but being complete by the end of the same post.

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I honestly just can't believe it could occur that quickly, and you seem to imply that its based on the user exposing the chakra to various types of Kekkei Genkai over time, which would lead back to the point I made initially that it would need to adapt to each Kekkei Genkai separately, if it had a limitation like that where it had to be exposed to it beforehand, that would make more sense, but as it is a post is only a few seconds and having something that could rapidly alter another person's body on such a level is just not clicking with me.

Also, if you're splicing yourself in, that most definitely would require more specification than simply replacing it because you have to merge with it to achieve a total net nothing effect. Effectively you're saying you're throwing out X's into the equation that is a Kekkei Genkai, but that won't always fit unless it is specifically designed to fit it. Plus this is all, as you've aiming, happening in a few short seconds, so theres no time to figure things out on the fly, and the chakra has no intelligence to think its way through things that rapidly, it could adapt over a bit of time, but it can't just know how to work when that same X has got to fit in hundreds of equations and have different answers.

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The way I see the set up of KKG's is that theres 3 types: Doujutsu, Chakra based, and Body type.

From the way I read the explanation as, this clan prevents the usage of Doujutsu and Chakra based KKG, while allowing Body KKG, such as Z's clan, or the Akimichi to function normally. As such, I really dont see a problem with the way this clan works.

By having this clans KKG attuned to the normal DNA structure of a human being, and then scanning over the DNA structure of the opponent as soon as they enter the radius of the field, the KKG would find the genetic mutations within the DNA that causes the KKG to exist, and supresses the function of it. This would prevent Doujutsu and Chakra based KKG from being utilized, but would still allow Body KKG to function normally, as you cant surpress something thats built right into the body.

Maybe if there was a post count involved before the opposing KKG's became unable to be used it would make more sense. As well as a chakra cost in there somehow.

Age : 35 Posts : 1113

What he said. Razz

But let me clarify as best I can...

1. The ability take hold immediately once within range and releases its hold the moment it is out of range. I have thought this through logically, as I'll explain: the energy is attuned to human DNA, which although holds individual characteristics and differences between people, has analagous structural composition between humans. If it didn't, humans would probably be so individually different we'd seem to be separate species altogether, and cease being a collective species of evolved hominids. Thus, the energy (attuned to this basic structure) can 'latch onto' any HUMAN DNA pretty much instantly. Obviously this wouldn't affect other species.

2. Furthermore, this is the Naruto-verse. Regardless of the few shortcomings of my explanation in terms of modern, real science... we should be ready to suspend reality a little bit, at the very least. How many things that are practically mundane in the Naruto-verse are completely and utterly impossible in reality? Things here don't always (in fact, more often than not) make sense.

3. As for what KKG it affects, that would be anything and everything that is regarded as a bloodline. I'll list a few canon examples to illustrate this:

Uchiha (KKG comes from DNA)
Hyuuga (KKG comes from DNA)
Nara (KKG comes from 'special chakra' only available through DNA)
Senju (Mokuton KKG comes from DNA-inherited ability to combine and access elements)

The above are all examples of KKG negated by the Idaten. However...

Akimichi (secret clan techniques)
Yamanaka (secret clan techniques)
Jiongu (physical form)
Kaiku (physical form)

Are all examples of things unaffected by the Idaten. Essentially, it blocks anything that (using chakra as a medium) exploits inherent, DNA traits. So looking at Kidoumaru's spider bloodline, the physical form would not be affected (multiple limbs) because chakra is not a medium. However, if he uses chakra as a medium to access the inherent bloodline of sticky web generation, then that is blocked.

Can I has clan naow? Razz

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Hmm. I'll take over this.

Regarding your KKG, there has to be some kind of limit to this. Someone could have something like the Eternal Mangekyou and you could just negate it with little effort? Please not only come up with any drawbacks you can think of, but I'd also like to see ways that this 'energy' can be overcome by those you're affecting. For instance, maybe anyone with chakra equal or higher to yours would either not be affected or at least have some kind of chance to reverse it.

Age : 35 Posts : 1113

Existing drawbacks:

--> Permanently active.
--> Affects allies too.
--> Limited range.
--> Must pause, meditate and use chakra to alter range.
--> Limits to who is affected by it.

Added drawbacks:

--> Clan members are unable to assimilate any form of bloodline ability (so no Sharingan transplants, for example).
--> The Idaten does not waste a subject's chakra. Should someone attempt a bloodline technique within its range, the technique would fail but no chakra would be used or wasted by the attempt.

Also, in response to what you asked of me, the 'way to overcome it' is simply move out of its limited range. Using your example, moving beyond the range of the Idaten should not be any trouble whatsoever for someone skilled enough to hold the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. Besides, there's something like a 50/50 chance your KKG won't be affected anyway.

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~Fox~ wrote:: Besides, there's something like a 50/50 chance your KKG won't be affected anyway.

I don't see that anywhere in the description? Unless I'm overlooking it. Regardless chance doesn't work much in RP as you're the one controlling the KKG therefore you control it's chance of success and yeah.. odds are you won't say that it failed heh.

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Ah sorry, I see how that must've sounded. My bad. Rolling Eyes

I meant that, in terms of all the clan abilities in the shinobi world, only about half of them are actually affected by the Idaten (i.e. those carried by bloodline).

Age : 31 Posts : 2547

I see..

Well, I don't really have any problems with this clan in particular.. just the nature of it's ability seems rather redundant to me.

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