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Wolfe
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PostSubject: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptySun 09 Mar 2014, 6:13 pm

Every day that passes shows no activity in Kumogakure. The last time somebody other than me posted in its entire section was the 27th of February.. 11 days ago.

I'd like help getting the members of Kumogakure to start posting, I'm not sure what kind of help I can acquire though. While it might seem blunt, I believe the best action is for Kumogakure's borders to be open. This would allow members of Kirigakure and Konoha to freely RP there and boost our activity, while also allowing for many cross-village relations between characters. Whether or not this became a permanent thing would be up to the Raikage.

**Editing to write that the borders being open should mean safe travel between Konoha/Kiri to Kumo and so forth.

***Calling them trade routes would make more sense, but I'm really tired and can't think of proper terminology for such things at the moment.
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Captain Konoha
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptySun 09 Mar 2014, 6:38 pm

I am working really hard on my Jounin, but if the rest isn't made, that's as far as I can go.
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Kite
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptySun 09 Mar 2014, 6:45 pm

This is something that needs to be taken up with your current raika- Oh wait.... xD
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Wolfe
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptySun 09 Mar 2014, 6:48 pm

Spectre wrote:
I am working really hard on my Jounin, but if the rest isn't made, that's as far as I can go.

People in Kumogakure aren't doing anything, simply put. When you're approved a couple of them might RP with you, might even form a team. But looking at the current situation, I believe they will go inactive again after making the team. The Raikage coming in might give us a plot, maybe a village-wide event. But the chances of them going inactive during it are also high considering what's happening right now.

I don't think Kumogakure has a future as a self-sufficient village, especially considering how few people apply for it. I believe it will need to act as an open zone that everybody can RP in to survive with decent activity.

*There are reasons why people aren't posting at the moment, no doubt a lot of them are simply bored under these circumstances. Even saying this I feel like getting bored is something that will continue to happen for them, refined to Kumogakure's own small user base. What I mean by "user base" is people who've been online within 7 days prior to now. The last check I did listed: Thunderthigh, Moji, Rookie, OccupiedLocket, Senji, BK-201 and myself.
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BityGal
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptySun 09 Mar 2014, 8:02 pm

*raises hand*

I be a new people. But as someone who has been intending to make my character from Lightning Country since before the most recent activity drop and doesn't want to be confined to roleplaying with just one or two people... I fully support Wolfe's idea of opening up the borders. ^^;

Because it's a bad cycle that I've seen before and I'm sure everyone else has: If new/current people don't see activity in a certain place, they won't put their character in the place of minimal activity. Thus making it near-impossible to get activity up. If nothing else, it's a good temporary solution to draw people to the place. : )
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Captain Konoha
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptySun 09 Mar 2014, 11:24 pm

Bity, you need to finish your character. I know a few good roleplayers who will be joining Kumogakure pretty soon if circumstances allow it, and I will be joining it with my Hoshigaki as well. That said, it's really just about being patient and not being the guy who leaves for a Magi site.
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Aaron
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptyMon 10 Mar 2014, 12:07 am

Spectre wrote:
That said, it's really just about being patient and not being the guy who leaves for a Magi site.

#rekt #shotsfired
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AppleBee
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptyMon 10 Mar 2014, 5:40 am

Oh Spectre... Why must you spit on the grave? It breaks my heart...

Well onto business.. we can perhaps add a short boost to Kumo by making it an objective of the month. That might get a spark going, but then we'd need to keep adding fuel to the fire.

Objective // All Kumogakure ninja approved during the month of ??? will receive a free cardboard box to act as their home and 10 extra exp.

Or something of the sort.

After that... I happen to have a crazy idea. As you said, we could have Kumo become a no longer functional village... something like a rogue state of sorts with multiple factions springing up. It can become a place of anarchy and something more like a PvP area would be on a MMORPG.

It can be a place of Site Events and a battleground much like how it was between Namigakure and Kirigakure (in-story). Also, with Konoha's Hokage in the state she is in... I'd say we have all the ingredients necessary to turn two negatives into a positive.
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Kite
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptyMon 10 Mar 2014, 7:08 am

As cheesy as it sounds, I find if you can find at least one or two people who you are friends with and enjoy rping with, it doesn't matter how low activity gets, cause you will predominately rp with them. At least that's how I do it.

#antisocialbehaviorftw
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Chris
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptyMon 10 Mar 2014, 6:55 pm

TOPKite wrote:
As cheesy as it sounds, I find if you can find at least one or two people who you are friends with and enjoy rping with, it doesn't matter how low activity gets, cause you will predominately rp with them. At least that's how I do it.

#antisocialbehaviorftw

What a noob :3
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptyMon 10 Mar 2014, 8:40 pm

TOPKite wrote:
As cheesy as it sounds, I find if you can find at least one or two people who you are friends with and enjoy rping with, it doesn't matter how low activity gets, cause you will predominately rp with them. At least that's how I do it.

#antisocialbehaviorftw

#antisocialbuddies4life  COOKIE! 
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OccupiedLocket
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptyMon 10 Mar 2014, 10:52 pm

I agree with Wolfe on this. I got stuck in two threads because of inactivity. A plot of some sort should be applied since there is no Raikage and the village has little to no leadership. I have some issues with the whole village being open and such. There are few people there and literally any other village could just walk in and take it over without much of a fight. The only people to defend are a small amount of Genin which against.

I say in it's current state, maybe Kumogakure needs a village threatening crisis. Something that could destroy it and help increase interest in the village.
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Chris
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptyMon 10 Mar 2014, 11:09 pm

OccupiedLocket wrote:
The only people to defend are a small amount of Genin which against.

I say in it's current state, maybe Kumogakure needs a village threatening crisis. Something that could destroy it and help increase interest in the village.

Those two sentences pretty much oppose each other. Who will defeat this threat, if you only have genin? :/

Though it sounds silly, I would actually support replacing Kumo with another village. I think starting with a blank slate allows for more creativity plus Kumo has never been active over the last 2 years of its existence, which suggests an underlying problem with it.

Maybe it's time to switch things up. Perhaps introduce Grass instead (tends to be popular), or heck, something completely new and unique!

I like the sound of the Village Hidden in Lava.
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OccupiedLocket
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptyMon 10 Mar 2014, 11:21 pm

Chris wrote:


Those two sentences pretty much oppose each other. Who will defeat this threat, if you only have genin?

If there is only Genin and the Village just "opens" up to people, what is stopping konoha from just randomly destroying it, or Missing Nin just killing the residents.

What I am saying is adding a plot of some sort to destroy it is better than just opening it up. Also if a change of the whole village is necessary what happens to the current ninja in that village? Do they convert to this new village or do they become ninja without a village?

Either way, something plot orientated would have to happen to Kumo with changes like that, for it will change the story arc of peoples characters there.
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Nomi
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptyMon 10 Mar 2014, 11:53 pm

I understand the concerns that are circling around Kumogakure. It's possibly had the worst past regarding Raikage's and activity, but with all the work that's been put into it lately, let me state firstly that it won't be shutting down. A new Raikage is in the works currently (and almost finished) as well as several new Jounin who will be joining shortly after, like Spectre stated. I know everyone residing there right now is worried about its status, but please understand that this is temporary. It is difficult to hold up activity in there as it stands now, but it won't be much longer til that changes.
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Chris
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptyMon 10 Mar 2014, 11:56 pm

The problem with Kumo is that this is a matter of staff being stubborn. People don't like the village. Get over it. Move on. No one will judge you for it.

As I said, the village has never been active. It trucked along until Kiri opened up. From then on, most new members went either to Kiri or Konoha.

Kumo itself is the problem. Putting more effort into a sinking ship doesn't make the ship float again.

Putting Jounin into a village is a bad way of bringing activity. Jounin are, as their rank suggests, basically the highest a shinobi can reach. It doesn't give much incentive to the people who are roleplaying these characters, to roleplay a lot.


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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptyMon 10 Mar 2014, 11:57 pm

OccupiedLocket wrote:
what is stopping konoha from just randomly destroying it

 Don\'t Tell Anyone 

Just to give a response to the original post, as I said in the Chatbox, all villages are currently open for members to gain access to. There is no restriction with a member from one village accessing another. All they have to do is roleplay it out. The idea was thrown in the air of making safe routes to travel or possibly even making Kumogakure as a whole a safe zone, however this would be counterproductive, as it's basically saying don't roleplay here unless you're here to socialise. As multiple have mentioned, including myself, this phase is nothing more than a temporary one. Albeit one that seems to be stretching for quite some time now, but a temporary one nonetheless.
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Wolfe
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptyTue 11 Mar 2014, 3:20 pm

I believe this topic can be solved until a new issue arises, fingers crossed it doesn't.
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PostSubject: Re: Kumogakure, Getting Worse Kumogakure, Getting Worse EmptyTue 11 Mar 2014, 4:17 pm

Chris wrote:
The problem with Kumo is that this is a matter of staff being stubborn. People don't like the village. Get over it. Move on. No one will judge you for it.

As I said, the village has never been active. It trucked along until Kiri opened up. From then on, most new members went either to Kiri or Konoha.

Kumo itself is the problem. Putting more effort into a sinking ship doesn't make the ship float again.

Putting Jounin into a village is a bad way of bringing activity. Jounin are, as their rank suggests, basically the highest a shinobi can reach. It doesn't give much incentive to the people who are roleplaying these characters, to roleplay a lot.


It does when people actually intend to help out the village, which some of us are trying to do. Hell, even if we fail, we can't do a worse job than you or Kyle, so you set the standards low enough for us to at least do a better job at it.

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#rekt

Solved.
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