Aging

Age : 29 Posts : 3145

I know this was discussed a number of times, whether by the Staff alone or by everyone, but we seriously need some system for age. I'm not asking for anything intricate - merely perhaps a post every certain amount of time, that announces that all Characters are older by a Year. Otherwise, we will eventually end up with 12 year old Jounin. Or something as ridiculous.

We could have a place where we put our Character Age and change it for everyone's reference. More ambitious Members could edit their Character Applications every X period of time, to add to the Information on their Characters: upgrading the appearance, growing the personality and expanding the history.

For example, every 4 Real Months, all Characters grow older. In terms of keeping track of this change, we can add a category to our Information (In Member Profiles), which will show up every time I post (just like My Age & Location show up).

Age : 31 Posts : 299

the thing is we don't really need an aging system, as long as character's have to be re-approved on each rank up, age will always be a factor of approval for jounin/chuunin whatever. And honestly i dont think there would be an issue with a 12 year old jounin as long as you had some good history to back it. Its not that important, just keep up with your own character and let others keep up with there's. Some people are less active and RP at slower paces then you or I do, or even slower then those people. It doesn't seem like a necessary improvement.

Age : 29 Posts : 3145

But then if Characters have to be re-approved upon Rank-up, you're having some Characters age and the others not. If we were using that system, Kana who has ranked up twice, would have aged twice whilst everyone, who remained Genin for that time period, kept the same age.

In other words, people would age at 'completely' different times and some wouldn't at all, or wouldn't for a long time. This would mess with the Time Continuum! xD (Always wanted to say that)

Age : 31 Posts : 299

which has what effect on RP or players? none or very insignificant amounts. Players age on the amount of time you put into the game, which i have already stated. Which is how it should be imo.

Age : 29 Posts : 3145

I'm saying that you can't have one Character age and another not. This is for a number of reasons, but the basic one is simply that:

If two Characters roleplay, they are at certain ages. These ages remain relative to each other. If two Characters meet and they are both 16, then every time they will meet, they should be of the same age or close to being of the same age. If we use your idea, after one of the Characters ranks up, he will be 17, and the other 16. That's somewhat fine. But then the first Character ages yet again. He is now 18, when the other is still 16. In roleplay terms, one character experienced two more years than the other.

This is impossible as they both started out 16 and should have aged together, regardless of Rank.

With your idea, a character ages because he ranked up, whilst everyone stays the same. What I'm saying is that age doesn't matter, that you can rank up as much as you want, and retain the correct age in regards to everyone else.

Age : 31 Posts : 299

Quote :: If two Characters roleplay, they are at certain ages. These ages remain relative to each other. If two Characters meet and they are both 16, then every time they will meet, they should be of the same age or close to being of the same age. If we use your idea, after one of the Characters ranks up, he will be 17, and the other 16. That's somewhat fine. But then the first Character ages yet again. He is now 18, when the other is still 16. In roleplay terms, one character experienced two more years than the other.

Yes.
Reason? Its not that important.

Age : 34 Posts : 1209

Problem is then you start interfering with how characters progress with such an aging system. I mean think about it this way. Let's say you have Bob and Jim. Jim RPs every day, gets the points, ranks up, thus he will age in the rank up, or maybe he won't. Then you have Bob who is more casual, doesn't finish too many topics and actually takes a break. Are you saying Staff should come in and say "Alright now all of you are a year older." That's fine for active players or players who RP a bunch but for those inactive players? You are going to make them age while they are progressing slowly through a rank.

You say you are afraid of 12 year old jounin, but canonically that has been shown. What you are suggesting would make 20 year old genin a very strong possibility. I've never seen a 20 year old genin in canon. Naruto being the only 16 year old genin I have seen. Aging should be left up to the player and only be deferred to staff on a character by character basis when ranking up.

Age : 31 Posts : 8965

Chris wrote:: 8/9 Topics is quite a task seeing as it takes a number of days, if not weeks, to finish one.

What you wrote in the Unreasonable Ranking Up thread here tells you exactly why it's hard to implement a system like this. The concept on time is so hard to consider here. It alters during each thread depending on how each character makes their post, if they have breaks within battles, long drawn out conversations, big walks or trips even shifts from day to night with hours skipped in between. Other threads that out of character last over a month, only took place over an hour or two where in some other thread the two other people have roleplayed six months of roleplaying together. There's hardly any consistency amongst users when it comes to time here and having timeskips all the time would prove to be very difficult.

Age : 31 Posts : 8965

TOPKite wrote:: I've never seen a 20 year old genin in canon. Naruto being the only 16 year old genin I have seen.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Yoroi_Akad%C5%8D
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Misumi_Tsurugi
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kosuke_Maruboshi
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Manabu_Akado
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Gennai
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Inomatsu
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Komugi

and of course. Kabuto who is still considered to be Genin ranked.

Most of the Genin in the Chuunin Examinations were above the age of sixteen. TEEHEE

Age : 34 Posts : 1209

I stand corrected. I only acknowledge about half of those people as proper "genin" but still. My point still stands that even the site doesn't want 20 year old genin and that you shouldn't push aging on players who end up taking a long time to complete threads.

Age : 35 Posts : 1113

TOPKite wrote:: Problem is then you start interfering with how characters progress with such an aging system. I mean think about it this way. Let's say you have Bob and Jim. Jim RPs every day, gets the points, ranks up, thus he will age in the rank up, or maybe he won't. Then you have Bob who is more casual, doesn't finish too many topics and actually takes a break. Are you saying Staff should come in and say "Alright now all of you are a year older." That's fine for active players or players who RP a bunch but for those inactive players? You are going to make them age while they are progressing slowly through a rank.

I actually think this sounds fair. If Bob's character ages and he hasn't worked to get the rank up to match it - tough. If real life stuff causing inactivity results in this, yes it would be harsh but there would at least be a mutual understanding that this would happen. It might not be a bad thing for people to be so protective of their characters. Anywho, it's all hypothetical (see below).

Adam wrote:

Chris wrote:: 8/9 Topics is quite a task seeing as it takes a number of days, if not weeks, to finish one.

What you wrote in the Unreasonable Ranking Up thread here tells you exactly why it's hard to implement a system like this. The concept on time is so hard to consider here. It alters during each thread depending on how each character makes their post, if they have breaks within battles, long drawn out conversations, big walks or trips even shifts from day to night with hours skipped in between. Other threads that out of character last over a month, only took place over an hour or two where in some other thread the two other people have roleplayed six months of roleplaying together. There's hardly any consistency amongst users when it comes to time here and having timeskips all the time would prove to be very difficult.

I also have great sympathy with what Chris intends here. In fact, I would like to see a more realistic aging system. However, Adam is right. Time is perhaps the trickiest thing to consider on an RP forum and implementing something like this will be problematic.

Age : 29 Posts : 1797

We could be like NWOTN, and have months or something. Thus, when one topic starts in whatever month it was back then, it stays in that month until it ends. That's a relatively simple solution to Adam's issue... The only problem is that people will have to wait out the topic before doing other things, but as I recall, we can be in multiple topics at once, so what's the big deal exactly?

Age : 34 Posts : 1209

Whatever, you guys do what you want....

Age : 35 Posts : 1113

Enzo wrote:: We could be like NWOTN, and have months or something. Thus, when one topic starts in whatever month it was back then, it stays in that month until it ends. That's a relatively simple solution to Adam's issue... The only problem is that people will have to wait out the topic before doing other things, but as I recall, we can be in multiple topics at once, so what's the big deal exactly?

Interesting. Does this work well on NWOTN?

Age : 29 Posts : 1797

~Fox~ wrote:

Enzo wrote:: We could be like NWOTN, and have months or something. Thus, when one topic starts in whatever month it was back then, it stays in that month until it ends. That's a relatively simple solution to Adam's issue... The only problem is that people will have to wait out the topic before doing other things, but as I recall, we can be in multiple topics at once, so what's the big deal exactly?

Interesting. Does this work well on NWOTN?

I have no idea Razz

I just saw it on their site, thought it was a nice touch. Though they do have 1 RL month = 2 RP months. Which is incredibly unrealistic and far too painstaking. Something like 1 RL month = 3 RP months, or even 4 RP months would remedy things far better.

Age : 35 Posts : 1113

Enzo wrote:

~Fox~ wrote:

Enzo wrote:: We could be like NWOTN, and have months or something. Thus, when one topic starts in whatever month it was back then, it stays in that month until it ends. That's a relatively simple solution to Adam's issue... The only problem is that people will have to wait out the topic before doing other things, but as I recall, we can be in multiple topics at once, so what's the big deal exactly?

Interesting. Does this work well on NWOTN?

I have no idea Razz

I just saw it on their site, thought it was a nice touch. Though they do have 1 RL month = 2 RP months. Which is incredibly unrealistic and far too painstaking. Something like 1 RL month = 3 RP months, or even 4 RP months would remedy things far better.

Haha, okay then. Smile

Sounds like a good place to start, maybe some tweaking. The rules for something like this needs to be as simple as possible, 'cause it's bound to get complicated at some point. Got my fingers crossed.

Age : 29 Posts : 3145

TOPKite wrote:: Whatever, you guys do what you want....

Kite we're debating and putting up ideas. That kind of attitude stinks. The US is like a big family, and we want the family to be richer, bigger, have better jobs, better houses and other good stuff. Now if you don't get involved, you'll be that one person, who doesn't really stand out or do much. That forgotten, ignored 'cousin' or whatever. Lol for bad metaphors!

Come on man, I'm sure you have ideas and I'm sure you have opinions, that you should definitely share. Don't be shy and definitely don't be negative. ^_^

Age : 31 Posts : 2547

Some gay dude wrote:: What you wrote in the Unreasonable Ranking Up thread here tells you exactly why it's hard to implement a system like this. The concept on time is so hard to consider here. It alters during each thread depending on how each character makes their post, if they have breaks within battles, long drawn out conversations, big walks or trips even shifts from day to night with hours skipped in between. Other threads that out of character last over a month, only took place over an hour or two where in some other thread the two other people have roleplayed six months of roleplaying together. There's hardly any consistency amongst users when it comes to time here and having timeskips all the time would prove to be very difficult.

Summed up everything I was going to say. Applause

Age : 29 Posts : 1797

People, we just need months and years Aging 287405

We don't need exact days for this. People are free to RP whatever the fux they want, provided they state that it's taking place in X month. Thus, once it ends, it ended on that month, not five months later D< Is it that hard to grasp, that the real world and RP world don't have to follow the same thread of time?

Age : 31 Posts : 8965

Enzo wrote:: We could be like NWOTN, and have months or something. Thus, when one topic starts in whatever month it was back then, it stays in that month until it ends. That's a relatively simple solution to Adam's issue... The only problem is that people will have to wait out the topic before doing other things, but as I recall, we can be in multiple topics at once, so what's the big deal exactly?

Then you could have one person with topics expanding across June, July and August. Aging 287405

Age : 29 Posts : 3145

Well technically, a single topic takes place in a single day - sometimes even a few minutes, or a few hours at best. For example, a sparring topic is just a fight: those last about 20 or so minutes. Now unless the participants then go on to do something else, the Topic only accounts for 20 minutes of the Character's life. The rest of it, we can assume is tedious and unworthy of mention :/

Just think of RPing Topics as book chapters. Everything in-between (in this case - a lot!) is missed out. In fact, think of all the intervals between topics as the Character going to the toilet. No book ever mentions that. A little unrealistic if you ask me D:

Posts : 18

What's the big deal? Shouldn't you mention/describe the season and time of day in any scene that isn't in a location devoid of weather? And you certainly could describe the passage of days through a single topic, but those occasions are likely rare.

Having a regulated passage of time on site is fine for some, but in the same, you can't expect to hold everyone to it. That other site you all mentioned seems to have taken down their Monthly ticker, likely for the same reasons other forum RP's try not to focus on dates so much... no matter what you choose someone will not fit.

Age : 29 Posts : 3145

I just think that having a system where characters age, makes roleplaying more interesting. Characters got to mature at some point, and older characters are far more intricate and fun, if they have an actual roleplayed-out background to them. All the friends and enemies you have made, mature with you, for example, and this in time, maybe changes your opinions about them and the interactions you have. Of course, there are more 'adult' reasoning behind aging. It's always fun to see a little innocent character, grow into a more 'aware' young adult, who suddenly is interested in the other sex or drinking alcohol, which he/she previously found foul. Etc. Ya know?

Age : 34 Posts : 591

Aging is a dumb idea. I would write more about it, but I would have to care.

Age : 34 Posts : 1209

Wanizame wrote:: Aging is a dumb idea. I would write more about it, but I would have to care.

I'm Kite and I approve this message.

Honestly, stop trying to impose your desire to age on others who don't want it. If you want to age then age your character. Leave the rest of us alone please.

I have a personal story I want to tell with my character. I'll age him when I feel like it.