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| Subject: Hagane Clan [Complete] Wed 23 Mar 2011, 11:46 pm | |
| Clan Name: Hagane Clan (Ha-Ga-Ne) Location: Iwagakure Signature Traits:
Physical Appearance: The Hagane Clan really lives up to the tall tale stories of their clan. The members of this clan are all naturally beefy with their enhanced muscles and despite their differential in body sizes. The members of this clan have a slightly darker complexion than most. They usually wear their hair in a short style thus creating less distraction of the battlefield. These clan members usually wear a flak jacket similar to that of a jounin but differ in color for they are of the brown color and cut short just above the abdomen.
Clan Ability: Hagane Clan possesses superhuman strength and stamina, and has extremely dense skin and muscle tissue which render them highly resistant to physical injury. The Hagane possesses these abilities as a result of their participation in dangerous, and highly controversial, rituals while in mere babies. A cellular regeneration ritual has fortified the various tissues of the Hagane's body, granting them a high degree of resistance to injury via skin and can resist taijutsu below their rank. Taijutsu, Senbon, kunai, swords, explosive tags, and regular weapons are reduced to 50% damage though hard to pierce their skin. Despite this, it is still possible to cause them injury. Ninjutsu, Chakra coated weapons, Large explosions, KKG or Clan techniques.
A second ability of this said experiments further enhanced their strength and durability forcing the myofibrillar’s to be slightly more increased raising the clans’ physical strength above the normal shinobi standard (25% increase). This attribute is described as being significantly as strong as their first enhancement. The strength of the Hagane is the only clan to rival that of the Akimichi. Though they aren’t quite as strong physically they surely put up a good fight and strong enough to over power anyone if taken lightly.
The same experiment which granted them this great strength and durability has also given them a faster than normal recovery time from injury. The Hagane's recovery time from physical trauma is significantly shorter than that of a normal shinobi. This being so the Hagane body normally heals 25% faster than other shinobi.
Drawback: A major drawback, however, to this superhuman durability is that when they do sustain serious injury beyond this ability to heal on it's own, medical care is difficult, given doctors' inability to get past their hardened skin.
Speed decreased 10%
Kekkei Genkai: N/A
History: - Quote :
For as long as history has recorded shinobi and there ability to manipulate chakra for fighting use the Hagane clan has been in the records as a prominent clan. With the ability to control and manipulate chakra and chakra waves they have been noted as a great clan in the history of Iwagakure. With stories and legends dating back to the first arrival of shinobi in the land there presence is a mystery.
Nobody knows how the ability to manipulate chakra came about in the clan, but as the building of the great village Iwagakure, a family of chakra controllers came forth to assist in the building. The leader of the clan, Taka, Presented an alliance with Kumogakure, They provide a home, jobs and a school for the members of his clan and they would serve as members of the ninja force there in the village. With many wars and outbreaks as to who would own where, people were building there ranks to defend there homeland, which seemed to always be the center of attack. The Hagane clan pledged there alliance to Iwagakure and was mixed in as members of the village.
As years went on rising ninja from the clan made names for themselves and even took top honers in many places. But as the wars and battles for power dulled down many people began to point fingers and blame the clan for these attacks. Since there origin was unknown and there ability unique, no one had known where this clan served, or even started. So many people shunned them as a cursed clan, a clan with dark secrets that needed to be shone. But the Tsuchikage would not allow the clan to be persecuted and blamed, after all they helped to defend the village and protect it. So there fears and worries were put in the back of there mind as the village grew. The members of the Hagane clan continued to grow and were eventually a part of the village of Iwagakure. Clan Jutsu: - Quote :
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- Name: Ryūtai (Meaning: Fluid)
Clan: Hagane Clan Emphasis: Ryūtai practitioners believe the same as the Wing Chun Art. The person with better body structure will win. A correct Ryūtai stance is like a piece of bamboo, firm but flexible, rooted but yielding. This structure is used to either deflect external forces or redirect them.
Balance is related to structure because a well-balanced body recovers quicker from stalled attacks and structure is maintained. Ryūtai trains the awareness of one's own body movement derived from muscular, tendon, and articular sources. Ryūtai favors a high, narrow stance with the elbows kept close to the body. Within the stance, arms are positioned across the vitals of the center-line. Shifting or turning within a stance is carried out variantly on the heels, balls, or middle (K1 or Kidney 1 point) of the foot depending on lineage. All attacks and counter-attacks are initiated from this firm, stable base. Ryūtai rarely compromises structure for more powerful attacks because this is believed to create defensive openings which may be exploited.
Structure is viewed as important, not only for reasons of defense, but also for attack. When the practitioner is effectively "rooted", or aligned so as to be braced against the ground, the force of the hit is believed to be far more devastating. Additionally, the practice of "settling" one's opponent to brace them more effectively against the ground aids in delivering as much force as possible to them. Requirements: Must be a member of the Hagane Clan
Description: Punches: Because of the emphasis on the center line, the vertical fist straight punch is the most common strike in Wing Chun. However, the principle of simultaneous attack and defense suggests that all movements in the Siu Nim Tau with a forward execution flow into a strike if no effective resistance is met, without need for recomposure. Other explicit examples of punches can be found in the Chum Kiu and Bil Jee forms, although these punches may appear to be superficially different they are simply the result of the punch beginning from a different origin position while following the same fundamental idea, to punch in a straight line following the shortest distance between the fist and the opponent.
The vertical punch is the most basic and fundamental in Wing Chun and is usually thrown with the elbow down and in front of the body. Depending on the lineage, the fist is held anywhere from vertical to horizontal (palm side up). The contact points also vary from the top two knuckles, to the middle two knuckles, to the bottom three knuckles. In some lineages of Wing Chun, the fist is swiveled at the wrist on point of impact so that the bottom three knuckles are thrust forward adding power to the punch while it is at maximum extension.
The punches may be thrown in quick succession in a "straight blast" or "chain punching". When executed correctly, it can be used as a disorienting finisher.
However, it is often misunderstood and criticized for encouraging weaker punches that do not utilize the whole body. But in fact, the formal name of it in Chinese is translated as "The Sun-character Rushing Punch", practitioner typically would rush forward with his full body weight "throwing" towards his opponent, with the fist as the "nail", and his full body weight as the "hammer". Also with each successive punch, practitioner would step in closer and closer to the opponent, and hence maximize the so-called "power in an inch" without the need of big swings or big punches.
Wing Chun favors the vertical punch for several reasons: • Directness. The punch is not "loaded" by pulling the elbow behind the body. The punch travels straight towards the target from the guard position (hands are held in front of the chest)
• Protection. The elbow is kept low to cover the front midsection of the body. It is more difficult for an opponent to execute an elbow lock/break when the elbow occupies this position. This aids in generating power by use of the entire body structure rather than only the arm to strike. Also with the elbow down, it offers less opening for the body to be attacked while the forearm and punch intercept space towards the head and upper body.
• Strength and Impact. Wing Chun practitioners believe that because the elbow is behind the fist during the strike, it is thereby supported by the strength of the entire body rather than just a swinging fist, and therefore has more impact. A common analogy is a baseball bat being swung at someone's head, as opposed to the butt end of the bat being thrust forward into the opponent's face, which would cause far more damage than a glancing hit and is not as easy to evade. Many skilled practitioners pride themselves on being able to generate "short power" or large amount of power in a short space. A common demonstration of this is the "one-inch punch", a punch that starts only an inch away from the target yet delivers an explosive amount of force.
• Alignment & Structure. Because of Wing Chun's usage of stance, the vertical punch is thus more suitable. The limb directly in front of the chest, elbow down, vertical nature of the punch allows a practitioner to absorb the rebound of the punch by directing it through the elbows and into the stance. This is a desirable trait to a Wing Chun practitioner because it promotes use of the entire body structure to generate power. Whereas, the rebound of a horizontal punch uses only the arm to strike. In this elbow-out position the hinge-structure directs force outwards along the limb producing torque in the puncher's body.
Kicks: Kicks can be explicitly found in the Chum Kiu and Mook Jong forms, though some have made interpretations of small leg movements in the Siu Nim Tau and Bil Jee to contain information on kicking as well. Depending on lineage, a beginner is often introduced to basic kicking before learning the appropriate form. Traditionally, kicks are kept below the waist. This is characteristic of southern Chinese martial arts, in contrast to northern systems which utilize many high kicks.
Variations on front kicks are performed striking with the heel. The body may be square and the knee and foot are vertical on contact, or a pivot may be involved with the foot and knee on a plane at an angle. At short distances this can become a knee. A roundhouse kick is performed striking with the shin in a similar manner to the Muay Thai version with most of the power coming from the body pivot. This kick is usually used as a finisher at closer range, targeting anywhere between the ribs and the back of the knee, this kick can also become a knee at close range. Other kicks include a stamping kick for very close range and a sweep performed with the heel in a circular fashion.
Every kick is both an attack and defense, with legs being used to check incoming kicks or to take the initiative in striking through before a more circular kick can land. Kicks are delivered in one movement directly from the stance without chambering/cocking. - Quote :
- Name: Iron Fist [Passive Ability]
Rank: N/A Type: N/A Range: Close Element: N/A Description: This is the clans natural ability. Being that their skins is so tough they Hagane are willing to hit anything and anyone with full force without any trace on consequence. The ultimate expression of this focus is the ability to concentrate their body's natural energies into their hand, manifesting as a supernatural glow around their clenched fist, making their fist "like unto a thing of iron." So concentrated, this "iron fist" can smash into its target with superhuman hardness and impact, while their hand becomes impervious to pain and injury. Chakra Cost: 0
Name: Iron Skin [Passive Ability] Rank: N/A Type: N/A Range: Close Element: N/A Description: This is the clans natural ability. Being that their skins is so tough they Hagane are willing to be hit anything and anyone with full force without any trace on consequence. The ultimate expression of this focus is the ability to concentrate their body's natural energies into their entire, manifesting as a supernatural glow around themselves, making their body "like unto a thing of iron." So concentrated, this "iron skin" can smash into targets or be target with superhuman hardness and impact, while they becomes impervious to pain given by taijutsu, swprds, normal weapons and explosions up to their rank. Chakra Cost: 0 Clan Taijutsu: - Quote :
Name: Hagane Style: 16 Point Joint Displacement Jutsu Rank: C Type: Taijutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: Similar to the Hyuuga Style the believe in by focusing on hitting the joints of the opponents causing their opponents a good deal of pain. This render theirs opponent rather damaged on the battle field possibly enough to slow them down. With this jutsu the Hagane usually aim for the 16 of the bodies joints and dislocate them. This is an average jutsu that is good enough to hurt anyone enough to gain the upper advantage. The joints that are dislocated are 6 shoulder, 4 elbows, and 2 jaw joints. Chakra Cost: 7
Name: Hagane Style: 10 Hit Combo Rank: C Type: Taijutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: This is a clan Taijutsu in which the Hagane clan's member runa a 10 hit power combo mixing up 7 punches with 3 kicks in a rapid section breaking the opponent down. This combination is rapid and quick hitting with a perfect balance and stature. Every punch and kick is delivered with full power. Chakra Cost: 6
Name: Hagane Style: 32 Point Joint Displacement Jutsu Rank: B Type: Taijutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: Similar to the Hyuuga Style the believe in by focusing on hitting the joints of the opponents causing their opponents to become heavily damaged. This render them useless on the battle field causing them to reduce their ability to perform handsign or sometimes worst case even move. This jutsu use 32 joint strikes to hit and dislocate 32 joints within the opponents body. These strikes are usually the 14/28 in each hand, 6 in the ear, 6 of the shoulder and elbows. This cause the opponent's to lose their ability to use their handsign until their joints are relocated. (Simply because half the hand and the shoulder are dislocated) Chakra Cost: 14
Name: Hagane Style: 50 Fist Combo Rank: B Type: Taijutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: This is a clan Taijutsu in which the Hagane clan's member run a 50 hit power combo made up of different punches in a rapid section breaking the opponent down in 10 seconds. This combination is rapid and quick hitting with a perfect balance and stature. Every punch and is delivered with full power with full intent of defeating their opponent. Chakra Cost:13
Name: Hagane Style 64 Point Joint Displacement Jutsu Rank: A Type: Taijutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: Similar to the Hyuuga Style the believe in by focusing on hitting the joints of the opponents causing their opponents to become nearly useless. This render them useless on the battle field causing them to lose their ability to perform handsigns and even move. This jutsu uses 64 joint strikes to dislocate 28 joints in the hands, 30 in the feet, 4 in the neck, and the 2 hip joints. This jutsu is much harder to perform because the precision it takes to hit the smaller joins such as the hands and feet. (This jutsu kills the opponents ability to perform handsings and lost most of their mobility) Chakra Cost: 23
Name: Hagane Style: 100 Hit Combo Rank: A Type: Taijutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: This is a clan Taijutsu in which the Hagane clan's member run a 100 hit power combo mixing up 70 punches with 30 kicks in a rapid section breaking the opponent down. This combination is rapid and impossible to see hitting with a perfect balance and stature. Every punch and kick is delivered with full power. This is a nasty combo that if landed will bring the opponent to the brink of their death. Chakra Cost: 25
Name: Hagane Style: 100 Point Joint Displacement Jutsu Rank: S Type: Taijutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: Similar to the Hyuuga Style the believe in by focusing on hitting the joints of the opponents causing their opponents to become futile. This render them useless on the battle field causing them to lose their ability to perform handsigns and mobility. This jutsu uses 100 joint strikes to take out the hands, feet, spine, elbows, shoulders, knees, hips, neck and many joint located within the skull. Death is a 99% rate. Chakra Cost:37 Clan Kinjutsu: - Quote :
Name: Hagane Style: Primal Focus Rank: C Type: Kinjutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: This jutsu works in the favor of the defense of the Hagane Clan. With this jutsu the Hagane focus their chakra into their shin making them even more of a defensive force. They manipulate their chakra for further their ability to become more imperial to elemental. By doing so they increase their chakra through out their body forming a thin coat of chakra surrounding them to fend of elemental to a certain degree. This jutsu however can only last up to 3 post with an 4CP chakra drain each post after the first. This can only be used once per battle. Doton = 20% resistance Raiton = 20% resistance Suiton = 20% resistance Katon = 20% resistance Fuuton = 20% resistance Chakra Cost: 6
Name: Hagane Style: Primal Focus x2 Rank: B Type: Kinjutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: This jutsu works in the favor of the defense of the Hagane Clan. With this jutsu the Hagane focus their chakra into their shin making them even more of a defensive force. They manipulate their chakra for further their ability to become more imperial to elemental. By doing so they increase their chakra through out their body forming a medium coat of chakra surrounding them to fend off elemental to a certain degree. This jutsu however can only last up to 3 post with an 6CP drain each post after the first. This can only be used once per battle. Doton = 30% resistance Raiton = 30% resistance Suiton = 30% resistance Katon = 30% resistance Fuuton = 30% resistance Chakra Cost: 11
Name: Hagane Style: Primal Focus x3 Rank: A Type: Kinjutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: This jutsu works in the favor of the defense of the Hagane Clan. With this jutsu the Hagane focus their chakra into their shin making them even more of a defensive force. They manipulate their chakra for further their ability to become more imperial to elemental. By doing so they increase their chakra through out their body forming a medium coat of chakra surrounding them to fend off elemental to a certain degree. This jutsu however can only last up to 3 post with an 10CP drain each post after the first. This can only be used once per battle. Doton = 40% resistance Raiton = 40% resistance Suiton = 40% resistance Katon = 40% resistance Fuuton = 40% resistance Chakra Cost: 21
Name: Hagane Style: Primal Focus x4 Rank: S Type: Kinjutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: This jutsu works in the favor of the defense of the Hagane Clan. With this jutsu the Hagane focus their chakra into their shin making them even more of a defensive force. They manipulate their chakra for further their ability to become more imperial to elemental. By doing so they increase their chakra through out their body forming a thick coat of chakra surrounding forming a blue coat of chakra around them to fend off all elemental. This jutsu however can only last up to 3 post with an 13 CP drain each post after the first. This can only be used once per battle. Doton = 50% resistance Raiton = 50% resistance Suiton = 50% resistance Katon = 50% resistance Fuuton = 50% resistance Chakra Cost: 35
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| | | Guest
| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sat 26 Mar 2011, 5:23 pm | |
| For the primal focuses: I understand the premise of the chakra acting as armor and being resistant towards elements. I would think the higher resistance to elements and the higher ranking it would call for more chakra to remain at a constant. That is to say the initial chakra release of the C rank primal focus with a D rank to remain at a constant.
B rank with a C rank to remain constant
A rank with a B rank to remain constant
S rank with a A rank to remain constant.
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| | | Aries
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sat 26 Mar 2011, 8:22 pm | |
| Whoa that's a lot of chakra.....edited |
| | | Guest
| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sat 26 Mar 2011, 9:04 pm | |
| 1/2 approved |
| | | Ryuuza
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 6:56 am | |
| Take out the last line of the last four jutsu. Add in a cost per post as well. |
| | | Aries
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 6:59 am | |
| Done |
| | | Ryuuza
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 7:06 am | |
| Remove the 100% resistance, thats too damn much. 75% is pushing it also. |
| | | Aries
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 7:12 am | |
| no that was passed by Admin already....Hugh that's why it's S-Rank |
| | | Ryuuza
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 7:13 am | |
| I have no proof of this. I cannot approve this until I speak with an admin or a higher up approves of it. |
| | | Aries
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 7:47 am | |
| ok I Pm'ed Hugh to reply
I even added that this can only be used once per battle |
| | | Adam
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 11:54 am | |
| Sukai is still a moderator and his opinion still stands, no 100% resistance to anything. |
| | | Aries
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 11:56 am | |
| Not even at S-Rank for only 3 post....also it's only usable 1 per topic |
| | | Adam
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 12:01 pm | |
| - Adam wrote:
- no 100% resistance to anything.
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| | | Aries
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 12:11 pm | |
| so what's a good range for it considering 50% is only 1 rank lower....and I'm sure and S-Rank technique is more powerful than that..... |
| | | Hugh
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 1:14 pm | |
| 75% sounds like a reasonable comprimise. That akin to reducing the power of techs by a whole two ranks
I want to state that while I concured with concept I raised issue with effectively immunity elements last time we talked about the clan and stated at the time you were likely to have issues in this regard. |
| | | Adam
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 1:16 pm | |
| I still find it ridiculous, it should be drastically lowered. DRASTICALLY!
Also, trench knives aren't a clan weapon, please remove. |
| | | Aries
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 1:22 pm | |
| Sometimes I wish you speak English Hugh lol jk
I lowered all of them 20, 40, 60, 80 because I found it easier to divide 80/4...is this ok
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| | | Hugh
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 4:32 pm | |
| I should state that when you asked for my opinion it was specifically in relation to resistances. I did not review the entire app or approve by proxy. After looking over it in full I actually have a number of issues:
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- Name: Iron Skin [Passive Ability]
Rank: N/A Type: N/A Range: Close Element: N/A Description: This is the clans natural ability. Being that their skins is so tough they Hagane are willing to be hit anything and anyone with full force without any trace on consequence. The ultimate expression of this focus is the ability to concentrate their body's natural energies into their entire, manifesting as a supernatural glow around themselves, making their body "like unto a thing of iron." So concentrated, this "iron skin" can smash into targets or be target with superhuman hardness and impact, while they becomes impervious to pain and injury given by taijutsu, swprds, normal weapons. Chakra Cost: 0 Impervious to Swords and Tai? We talked about and I talked about a need for any such resistance to be varied according to rank and have clear easily definable affects. In no case should they render you entirely immune to anything. This needs a severe rewrite.
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- Name: Hagane Style: 16 Point Joint Displacement Jutsu
Rank: C Type: Taijutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: Similar to the Hyuuga Style the believe in by focusing on hitting the joints of the opponents causing their opponents to become futile. This render their opponent futile on the battle field. With this jutsu the Hagane usually aim for the 16 of the bodies joints and dislocate them. This is an average jutsu that is good enough to hurt anyone enough to gain the upper advantage. Chakra Cost: 7
What do you mean by futile? I know the term but we don't have a status affect called futile in US. It needs to be defined in clear no none sense fashion. Please be specific
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- Name: Hagane Style: 10 Hit Combo
Rank: C Type: Taijutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: This is a clan Taijutsu in which the Hagane clan's member runa a 10 hit power combo mixing up 7 punches with 3 kicks in a rapid section breaking the opponent down. This combination is rapid and quick nearly impossible to see hitting with a perfect balance and stature. Every punch and kick is delivered with full power. Chakra Cost: 6 Rapid, Nearly Impossible to see, perfect balance and full power? All in one c rank justu?
Jutsu need to be balanced. If the tech is powerful it should not be particularly accurate, if its near impossible to see and thus avoid it should be propotionally weaker for its rank. Please rebalance the tech appropropriately.
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- Name: Hagane Style: 32 Point Joint Displacement Jutsu
Rank: B Type: Taijutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: Similar to the Hyuuga Style the believe in by focusing on hitting the joints of the opponents causing their opponents to become futile. This render them useless on the battle field causing them to reduce their ability to perform handsign or sometimes worst case even move. (Depending on where hit) This jutsu use 32 power strike to hit and dislocate 32 joints within the opponents body. These strikes are usually the 14/28 in each hand, 6 in the ear, 6 of the shoulder and elbows. Chakra Cost: 14 Once again another tech with wide ranging consequences that is short on definition. If a tech has a number of varying and subtle affects it needs to be clear cut about them to leave no doubt as what would occur if it hits.
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- Name: Hagane Style: 100 Fist Combo
Rank: B Type: Taijutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: This is a clan Taijutsu in which the Hagane clan's member run a 100 hit power combo made up of different punches in a rapid section breaking the opponent down in 10 seconds. This combination is rapid and quick nearly impossible to see hitting with a perfect balance and stature. Every punch and is delivered with full power with full intent of defeating their opponent. Chakra Cost:13 Has the same issue as the 10 hit. Seems a large jump up to go from 10 hits to 100 for a rank, B ranks are twice as powerful as C ranks so am I assuming each hit is considerably less powerful then those previously performed.
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- Name: Hagane Style 64 Point Joint Displacement Jutsu
Rank: A Type: Taijutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: Similar to the Hyuuga Style the believe in by focusing on hitting the joints of the opponents causing their opponents to become futile. This render them useless on the battle field causing them to lose their ability to perform handsigns and even move. This jutsu uses 64 power strikes to dislocate 28 joints in the hands, 30 in the feet, 4 in the neck, and the 2 hip joints. This jutsu is much harder to perform because the precision it takes to hit the smaller joins such as the hands and feet. Chakra Cost: 23
Same issues as 32
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- Name: Hagane Style: 1000 Hit Combo
Rank: A Type: Taijutsu Range: Close Element: N/A Description: This is a clan Taijutsu in which the Hagane clan's member run a 1000 hit power combo mixing up 700 punches with 300 kicks in a rapid section breaking the opponent down. This combination is rapid and impossible to see hitting with a perfect balance and stature. Every punch and kick is delivered with full power. This is a nasty combo that if landed will bring the opponent to the brink of their death. Chakra Cost: 25 Again seems issues as 10 and 100. Too many punches and lacking internal balance. Also how quickly can it be performed. A 1000 attacks sounds like something that would take more then one thread to perform
With everyone of the techs I want to know how long it takes to perform. Normally its not important but the with the amount of hits your techs involve can not be completely instantaneously like most jutsu. Obviously if a tech involves punching some a 1000 times it is going to take a while. If so its liable to be interrupted and should give an indication of how long it takes.
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| | | Aries
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 5:27 pm | |
| I made edits to everything |
| | | Pattycakes
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 5:34 pm | |
| Here are some bottom line standards that you have to conform to. If you don't, you will be denied simple as that. Discussion has happened enough and has gotten us nowhere, so heres the brass tax.
Your resistance to Taijutsu and weaponry can be 50% max.
Your Primal focus jutsu can go to 75% max, this was already discussed. Furthermore, you need to have a weakness that compounds as the resistances increase. For instance, you can gain resistance with 4 of the elements, but one element needs to be consistently increasing in effectiveness against you
With the Wing Chun fighting style, speed is not a focus. Your huge combos are impossible to perform while maintaining strength. The highest combo I'll give you is the 100 hit combo, and that needs to be A rank at least. For that combo, you should have a 25% decrease in strength, since you're going so fast. This 25% increase should be across the board for those ridiculous combos.
Primal Focus CP drain at S rank should be 15, 12 at A, 8 at B, 4 at C
Your skin can not be as hard as titanium. Life doesn't work that way. If it was as hard as titanium then it would be as inflexible as titanium and you would be unable to move. That said, the harder your skin, the slower your speed. That's just logic for you.
Make these edits or face denial. |
| | | Aries
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| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 6:38 pm | |
| Pat Said: - Quote :
- Your skin can not be as hard as titanium. Life doesn't work that way. If it was as hard as titanium then it would be as inflexible as titanium and you would be unable to move. That said, the harder your skin, the slower your speed. That's just logic for you.
It doesn't state that my skin is as hard as titanium. It simply say that m skin is as strong as titanium. taking away this effect is basically taking away the clan almost totally. This is the main and most important aspect of the clan period. My skin is like this due to a clan ritual. You can come it to Jashin or the Aburame whichever pleases you but yea it is what the clan do. The reason they differ.
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Primal Focus CP drain at S rank should be 15, 12 at A, 8 at B, 4 at C Done this
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With the Wing Chun fighting style, speed is not a focus. Your huge combos are impossible to perform while maintaining strength. The highest combo I'll give you is the 100 hit combo, and that needs to be A rank at least. For that combo, you should have a 25% decrease in strength, since you're going so fast. This 25% increase should be across the board for those ridiculous combos. Well Duh Patty, but my art isn't just the Wing Chun it's also mixed with Muay Tai. This is the reason my strikes are somewhat faster. As for the combos I had already edited them before you made your post. I took the power decrease now are you happy.
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Your Primal focus jutsu can go to 75% max, this was already discussed. Furthermore, you need to have a weakness that compounds as the resistances increase. For instance, you can gain resistance with 4 of the elements, but one element needs to be consistently increasing in effectiveness against you This makes no sense because what am I suppose to do choose which i am weak to as I RP...lol yea right like that's gonna happen. I took the S-Rank down to 75% that's all. If this isn't good enough I'll drop everything to 40% and have no increasing effectiveness like I said I would do earlier when Adam mentioned earlier.
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Your resistance to Taijutsu and weaponry can be 50% max. This as I said before is the only real reason I have created this clan. To have a clan that this superior to physical damage such as tai and weaponry. However I stated that chakra based elements hurt me the same as a regular weapon would hurt anyone else. Tai is the only real thing I am trying to overcome here. This is also the reason my skin is as STRONG as titanium.
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Also Pat I didn't appreciate your comments in the CB about me....EX. We have had problems with Aries since the beginning. No, that wasn't the only comment but it's the only one I remember clearly while writing this. I came to the CB trying to explain that it was hard to me to change something in a possible fashion that you guys wanted it. In other words I needed a little help NOT EVERYONE CRITICISM ON ME. I was trying to argue with you...and I felt like you kept pushing the so-called debate on me. I was in the middle of editing what I needed help with in which obviously I didn't do correctly but eh I couldn't get help from you or anyone else at the time. Also when I came to the CB I spoke to HUGH. I mentioned his name and I know it's an open CB but if I honestly wanted you, Shyke, The Ultimate Friend, or anyone else hat was in the CB at the time opinion I would have asked you all. Also, Just for you to know Aries hasn't been in trouble for quite some time here. Don't come back and get your auto mod position and think you can judge me on shit. (Talking about fairness lol yea right) I'm not exactly the same as I used to be. I've chilled quite a bit bro but you kind of got me heated just now. I haven't felt this way in a long time. I just want to freaking go off but I know that won't end well at all.
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| | | Pattycakes
Age : 30 Posts : 1701
| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Sun 27 Mar 2011, 6:52 pm | |
| It's very simple you can't be as strong as titanium. You can deflect all weapons. 50% resistance against Taijutsu and weaponry.
I'm sorry if you don't like it but you've already got more than enough powers. If you don't change these things, your clan will be locked and archived, or deleted depending on what you wish for.
As far as your little end note, I don't particularly care who you were asking for help. I am a moderator and because of that, my opinion on this matters. I didn't randomly get involved, Hugh asked me to step in and help. If you don't like that I'm sorry, but thats the way it is. Furthermore, you said some awfully hurtful things in there, most offensive to me was the bit on me getting some sort of "auto-mod" position. Well, let me inform you that I worked hard for that
I editted the FAQ I created the moderation guide I did all of the graphics you see before you I created the village locations and descriptions. I spent hours on the US 2.5 Advertisement I actively participated in staff discussion regarding the site I actively check applications
So don't tell me that I didn't earn my moderation position because it's not only insulting, but far from the truth |
| | | Aries
Age : 36 Posts : 1004
| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Mon 28 Mar 2011, 1:02 am | |
| Pat Said: - Quote :
It's very simple you can't be as strong as titanium. You can deflect all weapons. 50% resistance against Taijutsu and weaponry. Edited
Pat Said: - Quote :
- I'm sorry if you don't like it but you've already got more than enough powers. If you don't change these things, your clan will be locked and archived, or deleted depending on what you wish for.
This made me laugh lol
Pat Said: - Quote :
- As far as your little end note, I don't particularly care who you were asking for help. I am a moderator and because of that, my opinion on this matters. I didn't randomly get involved, Hugh asked me to step in and help. If you don't like that I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. Furthermore, you said some awfully hurtful things in there, most offensive to me was the bit on me getting some sort of "auto-mod" position. Well, let me inform you that I worked hard for that
I editted the FAQ I created the moderation guide I did all of the graphics you see before you I created the village locations and descriptions. I spent hours on the US 2.5 Advertisement I actively participated in staff discussion regarding the site I actively check applications I'm not going to comment on this because I will get in some deep shit. "I plea the FIF!!!" -Dave Chappelle-
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- So don't tell me that I didn't earn my moderation position because it's not only insulting, but far from the truth
I don't recall saying this in my statements.
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I change the resistances to my primal focus to 50% and below. I couldn't think of a good formula.
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| | | Pattycakes
Age : 30 Posts : 1701
| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Mon 28 Mar 2011, 2:14 am | |
| "Don't come back and get your auto mod position " Saying that I automatically received the position is equivalent to saying that I didn't earn it.
"though they do not pierce their skin" - Denied
Here we go. Your skin is not as tough as titanium, it can be cut. Actually, that is a point I wanted to raise earlier. Having really hard skin does not mean it can't be cut.
"resist taijutsu up to their rank"
I'll give this to you, but at one below your rank, at your rank it's only a 50% resistance
Since you are so strong, their should be a speed decrease of at least 10%
You still have that 132 hit combo, when I explicitly said the max you would be allowed was 100, and even that was pushing it alot.
Your CP drain is not as I said it had to be "Primal Focus CP drain at S rank should be 15, 12 at A, 8 at B, 4 at C" |
| | | Aries
Age : 36 Posts : 1004
| Subject: Re: Hagane Clan [Complete] Mon 28 Mar 2011, 6:34 am | |
| Pat Said: - Quote :
Your CP drain is not as I said it had to be "Primal Focus CP drain at S rank should be 15, 12 at A, 8 at B, 4 at C" It was at the drain you said to put it but I lowered it because I lowered the effects of the jutsu. However if it gets you off to see it the way you up it then you got it.
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You still have that 132 hit combo, when I explicitly said the max you would be allowed was 100, and even that was pushing it alot. Ok but Hyuuga got 128 palms...I'm not seeing why custom clans can be one par with canon ones. The Hyuuga Clan isn't OP so please don't use that one. Yea some clans are but not the Hyuuga.
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Since you are so strong, their should be a speed decrease of at least 10% Really don't see why but i did it just to make you happy
Pat Said: - Quote :
"resist taijutsu up to their rank"
I'll give this to you, but at one below your rank, at your rank it's only a 50% resistance Think about the fact that only 1/10 here will have tai as a specialty. Besides that no one will ever use a tai technique below the character rank. Taking this ability away from my make them nothing more than strong people. Not only that, their strength can't be use considering in my jutsu you have taken away my power striking. Basically you have made this clan useless.
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"though they do not pierce their skin" - Denied
Here we go. Your skin is not as tough as titanium, it can be cut. Actually, that is a point I wanted to raise earlier. Having really hard skin does not mean it can't be cut. This all kinda belongs in one. As for this I really don't think your understanding the point on the clan. By saying I cannot be pierced id kind of an extreme but I did note the things that could pierce me. This isn't an invincible clan neither am I trying to make it one. I'm trying to work with you to the best of my ability. However the more I edit the more it seems you take away from the clan. Yea it's your job and all that mumbo jumbo but how is my clan resistant to anything without some kind of ability? This is the reason for the skin.
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"Don't come back and get your auto mod position " Saying that I automatically received the position is equivalent to saying that I didn't earn it. Negative you are surely wrong. I meant it in a away that maybe some other member of the forum could have been given this opportunity and they could have possibly been great staff. (Not saying you aren't) However they weren't and you came back and got this automatically. Honestly dude, you should stop assuming on thing and read between the lines. |
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