How about a war?

Age : 29 Posts : 3145

I know they're quite hard to manage (for the staff) and depend a lot on high activity, but I figure we are reaching a point where we can't get more members by doing nothing new. The Monthly Objective is a good idea, but we need something physical to get behind. Wars offer a lot of character development, future and immediate, encourage posting and encourage activity, since any member can make a crucial difference to the result. There's only so many topics we can suffer through during peace-time :/

Age : 32 Posts : 1495

Or at least something huge, event-like, something like the Gift of the Gods thing, that was epic...

Age : 30 Posts : 1012

Well, imho it would be alright. but, sides may not be equal. here, the villages have very different activity from each other, some are more active and have higher ranks than others, while some just stand still.

it's a lot to think about.

Age : 28 Posts : 2538

YoungMoney wrote:: Well, imho it would be alright. but, sides may not be equal. here, the villages have very different activity from each other, some are more active and have higher ranks than others, while some just stand still.

it's a lot to think about.

An event on this scale is a lot to plan, so please give us some time and know that your views are being listened to. Smile

Age : 33 Posts : 48

Aaron wrote:

YoungMoney wrote:: Well, imho it would be alright. but, sides may not be equal. here, the villages have very different activity from each other, some are more active and have higher ranks than others, while some just stand still.

it's a lot to think about.

An event on this scale is a lot to plan, so please give us some time and know that your views are being listened to. Smile

Indeed it is a lot to plan, and organize. But that's not all. It's gotta be interesting to our current members, and any possible future members. It's gotta be planned out well, shit can't be changing out of the blue(unless due to an IC development) and so on.

From my own experience with Bleach Story, I know that if this 'war' doesn't get planned out right, etc, it could just fall through and cause more damage than good. Of course, if I were to compare Bleach Story when they had tried plots like this, to Ultimate Shinobi now... We do have a much larger chance for a plot idea like this too work.

Well there's my two cents. Basically I just don't want to see what happened with Bleach Story's event/war/plot attempts to happen here. The idea is awesome, and I hope all goes well in the planning etc. Smile

Age : 32 Posts : 1912

I think such a thing should be made to happen from an IC point, rather then by planning it OOC. That's just my point of view, because planned wars often tend to fluke out and cause mass inactivity, something I really loathe.

Age : 28 Posts : 2538

Celene's Dino wrote:: I think such a thing should be made to happen from an IC point, rather then by planning it OOC. That's just my point of view, because planned wars often tend to fluke out and cause mass inactivity, something I really loathe.

Well Kumo currently has three foreign shinobi within it's walls and there's nothing to stop Nukenin from attacking if they feel things on the site need spicing up.

Whilst it's great that you've felt confident enough to suggest this to the staff as a memberbase, I'd like to point out that there's nothing really stopping the members from taking the plot into their own hands, rather than always looking to us for direction. If you want a war, start one. As long as it makes sense IC and you follow the rules, I doubt there'll be any objections.

Age : 30 Posts : 1012

Aaron wrote:

Celene's Dino wrote:: I think such a thing should be made to happen from an IC point, rather then by planning it OOC. That's just my point of view, because planned wars often tend to fluke out and cause mass inactivity, something I really loathe.

Well Kumo currently has three foreign shinobi within it's walls and there's nothing to stop Nukenin from attacking if they feel things on the site need spicing up.

Whilst it's great that you've felt confident enough to suggest this to the staff as a memberbase, I'd like to point out that there's nothing really stopping the members from taking the plot into their own hands, rather than always looking to us for direction. If you want a war, start one. As long as it makes sense IC and you follow the rules, I doubt there'll be any objections.

I think they want more of a -site- wide event, not just something happening in Kumo.
While it is hard to start plot with all the villages hidden (Like they should be) Wars themselves need to be thought out. Liek Iori said, Him and I were both Admins/mods on bleach story, and our staff there, bless their souls, did a horrible job of doing a war, and caused a massive inactive member base.

Us has a lot more options than Bs, and like he said, I'd hate to see US go down like BS.

Age : 29 Posts : 3145

Not really a member decision when all Kages are a part of the Staff :/

Age : 30 Posts : 1012

Chris wrote:: Not really a member decision when all Kages are a part of the Staff :/

Age : 29 Posts : 766

I believe that something like this had been tried previously. It clearly didn't take off, or else we'd still be using it. I only remember this because I was active then more than I am now.

http://www.ultimateshinobi.org/t133-the-ultimate-conflict-introduction

Age : 28 Posts : 2538

Chris wrote:: Not really a member decision when all Kages are a part of the Staff :/

Miguel (Winged Blade, the Hokage) isn't. That's hardly a point within itself anyway.

Age : 30 Posts : 1012

it actually is a point. The kages are basically the village. The choose what to do and what not to do with other villages, in a political sense.

Age : 29 Posts : 766

The point is I provided a quite reasonable link for everyone who has an opinion about this to check out before they keep posting. I'm sure some people who were around for that know exactly what that is.

On another note, the Kage is not supreme authority. People can conspire to rebel against their leader if they are unsatisfied with them. There isn't anything saying I can't start a rebellion against Miguel. In a political sense, if the Kage runs the village a certain way, then yes, it becomes a point unto itself. However, I'd like to point out that it's not always the case. Hiruzen Sarutobi was not the sole person who made the descisions in Konohagakure. There was also Danzo and the other two elderly advisors no one ever cared about.

Age : 33 Posts : 254

Why do ideas for a plot in Naruto always get directed towards war? Why do people think war is the only interesting site-wide event available when it comes to an IC point? I'd love to see something different, maybe we could pull off something where the villages face off in a tournament? It'd make me very happy to see alternatives to another war based in the Naruto universe, but if I'm the only one who feels this way then I understand. ;o

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ShykeWolfe wrote:: Why do ideas for a plot in Naruto always get directed towards war? Why do people think war is the only interesting site-wide event available when it comes to an IC point? I'd love to see something different, maybe we could pull off something where the villages face off in a tournament? It'd make me very happy to see alternatives to another war based in the Naruto universe, but if I'm the only one who feels this way then I understand. ;o

Personally, it sounds like your suggesting something akin to the Chunin Examinations.

Age : 33 Posts : 254

That was simply one suggestion, not a declaration of what I think we should do instead personally. But no I did not picture it to be akin to Chuunin exams, just a tournament with a prize at the end maybe.

Age : 30 Posts : 1012

The village vs village would be alright if each village was just as as active as each other.
Numbers is important as well.

A territory battle over the minor countries would be cool imo Kinda like the gang territory in San Andreas. Besides, doesn't most people here not like combat? I love it, but I've heard mixed emotions. Plot doesn't always have to involve combat, it could be political stand points, meetings of certain value. Meh, just throwing stuff out there.

Age : 32 Posts : 1495

Intervillage Chuunin exams? Intervillage Cereal Munching Competition? Intervillage Rap Battles?

War isn't the only option I guess but something like Chuunin exams would be awesome (although I love cereal way more than exams Sad

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Age : 33 Posts : 254

RukaAyaka wrote:: Intervillage Chuunin exams? Intervillage Cereal Munching Competition? Intervillage Rap Battles?

War isn't the only option I guess but something like Chuunin exams would be awesome (although I love cereal way more than exams )

This needs to exist right now. ;3

Age : 28 Posts : 2538

My suggestion would be for members to keep posting their event ideas here Smile

Age : 30 Posts : 1012

The chunnin exams would only slow people down..
What if people go inactive?
what if there isn't enough Genin that reached that Chuunin requirement?

Edit: a village vs village tournament of ranks would be fun. Get an activity thread for people to post in to show they're active, count up the ranks, make brackets based on how many people joined, and put genin vs genin Etc..

The prize would be something that could benefit that character or village.

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I agree. Lets start a war.

Age : 29 Posts : 3145

The Chuunin exams have been tried before and they almost always fail one way or another, usually, because they drag out and their original goal of raising activity, doesn't work out as people opt out or go inactive. Plus, we rank up through exp. It's a much faster and efficient system. If we have one Chuunin Exam, why not have another? Why even bother with EXP when we can all attend the exam? People would stop rping missions because they wouldn't have to do them any more :/

And Shyke, I suggested war because its one of the things that gets everyone involved. We could have a tournament, sure, but then a tournament is basically very similar to a war (structure wise: I mean you're fighting people either way, right?) , except that it has 10 times less Character-development value. :/

There's a difference between getting your ass kicked in a friendly match and your comrades dying left and right, whilst you cower in fear, paralysed and too weak to do anything to save them.

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We have had a Tournament in the past, and a huge site-wide war too. Like many members are saying, I'd like to see a new, fresh idea come to the playing field. Maybe numerous little events, something for the higher ranks and something for the lower ranks.

Something that springs to mind is a possible Kage conference. There will be changes made to two Kages, incase people weren't aware, but Enzo has left and Miguel is handing over his position because he cannot currently cope with the position. At the 'peace time' like the site is currently in, there could be a conference where each Kage bring with them high-ranking guards, and plans are set for future developments. It'll be the first Kage conference we've seen here, and could create tensions for future conflict between villages as I'm sure all the Kage will be different in their personas, goals and attitudes to getting things done.

While the above is happening, village specific events kick off in each place. We could celebrate a Konoha festival for the dead, a fabled contest in Kumo, and the setting down of new traditions in Kiri. These would be for the lower ranks, of Genin, Chuunin and some Jounin mingled in there to enjoy. Nothing like close-knit village people bonds being forged, especially with their respective Kage away at a summit. It could be tense, it could be joyous, it could be an event were songs of war are sung.

The above are just ideas I had. I don't care who likes them, I just wanted to contribute something since I feel passionate about getting an event off the ground here.